Clinton will be leaning heavy on Dean and DNC to seat MI/FL delegates.

[KittyWampus]

Be prepared to back Dean on this.

[floridablue]

1. No can do.

[liberalnurse]

2. Dean will do whatever it takes to win.

There are always "fines" to levy.

[Kucinich4America]

3. I usually back Dean anyway (and have since 2003)

It's the Clintonista DLC who wanted to front-load the primaries so they could buy the nomination. They are the ones who got Michigan and Florida kicked out. And Hillary doesn't get free delegates because she's the only one on the ballot.

[BringBigDogBack]

14. agree

[Debi]

4. Whoever the nominee is, they will seat the delegates

at that point in the process the DNC Chair is superfluous.

Now...if we have a brokered convention....(but I'm betting Feb. 5th takes care of that idea as well)

[madfloridian]

5. Won't it be up to the nominee?

?

[rateyes]

6. I bet she will.

And, if I was Dean, I'd tell her to get lost. If you can win outright---then, cheat? Is that the mantra, now?

[Robbins]

9. Dean

We should support him on this.WIth Obama and Edwards not even on the ballot In Michigan that should
not even be considered a race.Here In Missouri we don't vote till Febirary 5 Florida could do the
same.

[rateyes]

10. Same in GA...

and, yes...FL and MI voted for the rules, and then broke the rules, and don't want to pay the consequences (that they knew about when they broke the rules).

Screw 'em. It's their own damned fault.

[floridablue]

12. Florida Rules

From a Republican Legislature and Governor. But the Republicans only lose half their delegates.

[slick8790]

18. And republicans have to deal with something like 6 states breaking their rules

and moving up early. This is a strict penalty, but they knew what they were getting in to. There was only 1 vote in the legislature against the bill moving up the primary. The rules florida signed allowed for the possibility of being forced, and required that the democrats put up some kind of resistance. But they did not, they carelessly voted with the republicans to break DNC rules. They get what they deserve.

[MaineDem]

7. It's not up to Dean

I wish people would understand that it's the Rules and Bylaws Committee of the DNC that makes these rules. Not the Chairman. Dean isn't even at the meetings. And it will be the convention as a whole that actually decides if these delegations will be seated based on recommendations from the Credentials Committee.

Now, that being said, I think the nominee will want those delegations seated regardless of who that nominee is. It'll be for unity.

[floridablue]

11. Barbara Braziale was at the meetings w/fl for the DNC

[MaineDem]

15. You mean Donna?

She's a member of the Rules & Bylaws Committee.

[floridablue]

23. Yes I do. Sorry.

[Egnever]

8. My guess is that Dean will tell her to pound sand

Do you really believe he will cave to someone that has intentions of replacing him with harold ford?

[cali]

20. I wish people would read. This has zip to do with Dean

he can't do anything about it.

[goldcanyonaz]

13. Michigan and Florida need to be heard.

[Alexander]

16. Of course, that's why Carville wanted Dean out and Ford in.

He knew Ford would seat their delegates in order to please Hillary Clinton.

[madfloridian]

17. A reminder...Florida was in on it with the GOP from early 2006

So there should be no sympathy for them. I feel for the people who are still not aware just how the state leaders screwed them.

Details on how Florida worked with the GOP to set the early primary date.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/madfloridian/1617

"1Florida Democratic Legislators sponsored the bill to move the primary to January 29th;

Jeremy Ring introduces primary bill

2.Florida House Democratic Legislators voted in committee three times for the bill to move the primary to January 29;

3.All but one Florida House Democratic Legislator vote on the floor to move the primary to January 29.

4.Florida House Democratic Leader Dan Gelber stated, after receiving a call from DNC Chair asking for help in opposing setting the primary date before February 5, “I don’t represent Howard Dean.”

5.Florida House Democratic Leader Dan Gelber stated, after offering an amendment to move the primary to February 5th, that the only reason he offer it was “to show that there was an attempt to state within the Democratic Party rules.” The amendment failed on a voice vote with no debate being offered.

6.Florida Senate Democratic Legislators voted in committee to move the primary to January;

7.Florida Senate Democratic Leader Steve Geller stated on the Senate floor that he was offering an amendment to move the primary to February 5 only because he was threatened by DNC Chair Howard Dean. Sen. Geller than mocked his own amendment which failed on a voice vote without any debate.
Email from a DNC member

[OzarkDem]

19. Thanks for pointing that out

you're my favorite DU'er.

[ButterflyBlood]

21. The DNC won't crack

The rules are pretty clear.

[NashVegas]

22. She Can Lean All She Wants

Isn't going to make him a pillar.

[Azathoth]

24. That would be like the Supreme Court handing Dubya the presidency

It would be the ultimate example of the insiders leverging their influence to change the rules of the game. If they did that, the Democratic Party would go bonkers.