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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:40 PM
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A brief history of crying in the New Hampshire primary
A brief history of crying in the New Hampshire primary


Oliver Willis: "Crying?"

Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but for someone who has been set up as the iron woman of politics and has run a campaign based on that theme, to cry on the campaign trail is kind of ridiculous. I know we have double standards, but the candidates are working within them - Clinton, Edwards, Obama and even on the right. But for Hillary Clinton to now be "choked up" after losing one caucus?

Come on.


Taylor Marsh: Emotional Clinton on the Trail

Like I've been saying, tap into voters with emotion. It's the only way to win. To add, people know when something is contrived. There is no doubt that she's exhausted and the wall politicians usually erect completely falls in this exchange. She shared her honest feelings with the voters, revealing the Hillary people who've known her for years says is behind the politician we see every day. It's a continuation of the "That hurts my feelings," likability moment during the debate on Saturday, which was delivered so flawlessly. There's a part of Hillary Clinton that has not been revealed to the public. It's who she is and people need to meet that part of her. It was a very real moment.

"It was a beautiful moment." - MSNBC reporter quoting one person in the room

Forgot to put a link to the video. Here it is.


Clinton chokes up with emotion, as her eyes mist

by John McCormick, updated at 2:59 p.m. Eastern

PORTSMOUTH, N.H. – One does not see Hillary Clinton's eyes get misty in public very often, so there was an instant buzz in the room when she got choked up today in a café here.

The moment, which certainly appeared unscripted, happened near the end of her visit with undecided voters, as she was asked how she gets ready in the morning, how she keeps looking good on the road and who does her hair.

<...>

"I have so many ideas for this country," she said, choking up. "I just don't want to see us to fall backwards."

<...>

In what appears to be an ongoing, subtle reference to Obama, Clinton called President Bush "really affable and personable," before suggesting that his track record did not reflect what he promised he would do in office.

"But if you looked at what he had done in Texas, there was no basis for believing that he would do those things," she said. "I don't think my experience disqualifies me."

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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:42 PM
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1. Here's a complete history of crying in the New Hampshire primary.
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 03:43 PM by Alexander


"The collapse of Muskie's momentum early in the 1972 campaign is also attributed to his response to campaign attacks. Prior to the New Hampshire primary, the so-called "Canuck Letter" was published in the Manchester Union-Leader. The letter claimed that Muskie had made disparaging remarks about French-Canadians – a remark likely to injure Muskie's support among the French-Canadian population in northern New England. Subsequently, the paper published an attack on the character of Muskie's wife Jane, reporting that she drank and used off-color language during the campaign. Muskie made an emotional defense of his wife in a speech outside the newspaper's offices during a snowstorm. Though Muskie later stated that what had appeared to the press as tears were actually melted snowflakes, the press reports that Muskie broke down and cried shattered the candidate's image as calm and reasoned."
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Fed_Up_Grammy Donating Member (923 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:52 PM
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11. I remember that incident.It was quite the news event.
The Manchester Union Leader was a pure rag----Loeb was vicious.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:42 PM
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2. You know, you're right. Why have only twenty threads on this topic...
when we could have twenty-one!?
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:44 PM
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4. Well, it's about Hillary, so we
have to analyze even more. Get out a microscope, how salty were those tears anyway?
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:46 PM
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5. For some reason, that made me laugh.
I have to admit that it probably wouldn't surprise me if a chemical analysis did, in fact, show up on DU.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:47 PM
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6. Your comment made me cry
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:47 PM
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7. Thanks for taking a count.
Got stats on any other topics: polls, not voting for Obama or Clinton, Obama's inexperience, Clinton's inexperience?

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:52 PM
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10. Point taken. However, "I know you are, but what am I?" isn't a solid debate tactic.
Just because other topics are beaten to death doesn't mean your addition to the pile is any less contributory.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:56 PM
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12. So anything discussed for more than four hours is beaten to death? n/t
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:07 PM
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14. It's obviously the most important issue of the campaign.
So, a couple dozen threads for such an important issue?

Yeah, I'd consider that beaten to death.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:29 PM
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15. No, it isn't the most important thing, but
supporters believe this moment was genuine and will help her. Others disagree. So in that sense, what people believe (including those who will be swayed by it) it's important.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:43 PM
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3. It's okay when Bush does it


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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:50 PM
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8. He's such a phony! n/t
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 03:51 PM
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9. Well there's a master,
he's got the single tear thing going at the same time he was probably sharing a beer with someone. :-)
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:05 PM
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13. I respected Clinton up to now...
although I think Obama is the best.

But her attacks on Obama, her emotional manipulation, is a huge put-off.

If her candidacy and what she has to say about what she will do is not strong enough to get her votes, she should not revert to manipulation, bashing, etc.

What was that about a 5-year old who loses an argument - the child resorts to name-calling.

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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 04:33 PM
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16. History? Yeah I remember Muskie crying, but you people are forgetting...
...it's not OK for men to cry. That's what women do. So if Hillary cried it's OK. She is a woman. And in addition to baking cookies and being submissive, she can cry - she's a woman.

I heard that in a song, I think..... let her cry, she's a woman?
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