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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:36 PM
Original message
To say Hillary is weak and crying is sexist once again. Day #3 of the rampant sexism.
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 05:38 PM by LoZoccolo
This is a clip of what we are talking about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVlwH7-05Fk

Now compare it to this Howard Dean moment:

"I'll tell you something, Chris," Dr. Dean said. "No matter what happens, this will always be home." He was suddenly choked up with emotion and tears welled in his eyes. "And I'm going to quit there," he said, hurrying out of the room.


http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/politics/campaign/25TAPE.html?ei=5007&en=7d7f8ce0556af041&ex=1390366800&partner=USERLAND&pagewanted=print&position=

We didn't see tons of threads about that, now did we? Proof again of the sexism rampant on DU, which is teeming with sexists and macho men wanna-bes.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:39 PM
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1. As my old friend Kurt once wrote.....
"The finest day that I've ever had
Was when I learned to cry on command...."


Perhaps Hillary is a Nirvana fan? Hell, at least then I could respect her a little.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:42 PM
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4. Oh, I don't see that happening.
It takes both fellow feeling and knowledge to respect and appreciate such a woman. All the lyrics in the world can't provide that. Funny you thinking they could.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #1
8. Even if she was faking - which she wasn't - it would still be better than
faking that you saw a huge flying triangle in the sky.
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WahooJunkie Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 07:05 PM
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51. hahahahah
hahahahhahahahahahaha

ha


haha

ha

are you SERIOUSLY focusing on that?

the next thing you'll tell me is that Kucinish is doll-like and unelectable because of that.

Oh yeah, and his wife has a tongue ring

GASP!

whatever
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:39 PM
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2. Now, now. When Muskie cried, THAT was womanish.
When Hillary cries, it's... uh....mannish? No, that's not it. Weak. Womanish is weak. Got it now. Can't have that in a president. Can't have a woman president.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:41 PM
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3. Hillary is not my first choice, but this stuff is starting to piss me off.
Women can't win no matter what. Cry and you're too emotional or faking, don't cry and you're a man.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:44 PM
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6. Thats bullshit and you know it. Tell me one man that can get away with crying
These people are vying to be the LEADER of the country. They need to be in control of their emotions no matter what sex they are.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:44 PM
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9. Howard Dean n/t
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #9
25. That wasn't crying, that was yelling over a noisy crowd
And it was grossly distorted by the whore media. I doubt we'll see the "Crying Hillary" video repeated 700 times this week. Unless it (by some unholy miracle) gives her a win in New Hampshire.

In which case, the DLC will ensure that it's on a constant tape loop until Feb. 5
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #25
30. Did you even read the OP? n/t
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #6
14. When Bush tears up
the media gushes about how much he cares.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #14
16. George W. Bush* holding back tears, right here.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:52 PM
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22. Do a search for posts from that day. DU was all OVER him for that.
I can't stand hypocrisy.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:50 PM
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19. George H. W. Bush tearing up right here.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:53 PM
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24. I mean, even the video you posted is making fun of him nt
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:04 PM
Response to Reply #14
35. I remember him doing that after 9/11.
The media was like "Awwwww....."
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:50 PM
Response to Reply #6
20. Whatever
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #6
27. Bill Clinton (nt)
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:54 PM
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28. George Bush (nt)
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:55 PM
Response to Reply #6
29. Ronald Reagan
Shall I stop now, or do you get the point?
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #29
32. Whats point?
You've named a republican, a loser and a Clinton. All people who were lambasted for crying. The point was suppose to be you showing me a time that crying HELPED someone.
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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:04 PM
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36. It helped all of them
In every case, the press made it out that it showed their compassion.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #6
31. John Kerry n/t
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #6
37. People are naturally emotional. The idea that you can always bottle that
up with rationality is so much nonsense.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #6
48. thanks
i also prefer the unemotional candidate...couldn't care less what sex, though I'd prob be harder on a guy that wussed out. I don't have a problem with Hillary's emotional life...i could care less if she's nice or mean...I just flat out hate the clinton legacy of trinagulation finger in the wind politics. But please....no crying on tv
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:42 PM
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5. The leader of the free world, male OR female, needs to be in control of their emotions
The same thing is applyed to Musky, Hillary, or any other candidate that loses control in search of political gain.
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Demoiselle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #5
12. She was in complete control.
Bill isn't the only accomplished actor in the Clinton family.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:33 PM
Response to Reply #12
49. Except...
Bill is the BETTER actor!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:44 PM
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7. You apparently don't remember EDMUND MUSKIE.
Crying single-handedly killed his candidacy. And he was male.

Speaking of crying, sounds like you need a ride in one of these:

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #7
11. Well you need an Etch-A-Sketch. n/t
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:46 PM
Response to Reply #11
15. You need a diaper change. Your bullshit STINKS.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:48 PM
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17. Go get you an aluminum pie tin. n/t
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. It would take a dump truck to carry all of your BULLSHIT.
And Oasis still sucks ass.

Still haven't changed your choice of vehicle, I see.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #21
23. Tell everybody here about that rice cooker while you're at it.
Go on, everyone's listening.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:02 PM
Response to Reply #23
33. Get over it, you whiny baby. You fool no one with your Obama avatar.
You're a Hillbot and everyone knows it.

"Go on, everyone's listening."

Not to you, they aren't.

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:08 PM
Response to Reply #33
39. I am not a Hillbot.
I am a Go-Bot. That mighty ambulance folds out into a mighty robot!

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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:10 PM
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40. Oasis sucks and you've been an obvious Hillbot from Day 1.
Funny how you claim perceived sexism, but you didn't notice one thread saying Obama was a crack dealer, or another saying a mobster bought his house for him, or another comparing him with Hitler.

Nope. No racism here. Only sexism. :eyes:
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:44 PM
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10. Day three of claiming anyone who doesn't worship the anointed one is sexist. NT
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:45 PM
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13. oasis sucks ass.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:05 PM
Response to Reply #13
38. Yeah they do, and their singer's a complete asshole.
Birds of a feather and all that.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:06 PM
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53. when me and my brother noel aren't fighting, we're in our hotel room.... snorting cocaine!
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:49 PM
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18. Because it was HONEST n/t
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 05:54 PM
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26. I don't care if the tears were real or not
Weak or phony, take your pick.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:02 PM
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34. Hillary isn't my first choice
but I really think this is much ado about nothing. But that's what campaigns are all about, it seems.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:14 PM
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41. Whoah whoah whoah Hillary's cryin'
http://www.theage.com.au/ffximage/2007/08/14/vanhalen_wideweb__470x380,0.jpg

She wants a win in New Hampshire, uh yeah yeah
Uh, just to try to make herself feel better
She said "Gimme (Gimme a corporate donation sometime)"
But she knows what that'll get her

Oh, whoa, whoa, Hillary's cryin'
Oh, whoa, whoa, Hillary's cryin'

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:17 PM
Response to Reply #41
42. I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise, they climbed aboard their starship
And headed for the skies!

They said:

Come sail away
Come sail away
Come sail away with me, Dennis!
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:19 PM
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43. You parodied STYX? Shows how out-of-touch you are.
:rofl:
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:23 PM
Response to Reply #43
45. No shit!
Even OASIS is better than what passes for "Styx" these days.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 08:16 PM
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52. My song is only one year old than his song.
Jamie's Cryin' - 1978 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamie%27s_Cryin%27
Come Sail Away - 1977 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Sail_Away

I would posit that "Come Sail Away" is an order of magnitude more considered a classic than the Van Halen song, despite the fact that it was sampled for "Wild Thing" by Tone Lōc.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #52
54. oh that's an argument you're sure to lose!!
Edited on Mon Jan-07-08 09:12 PM by dionysus
Styx!?!?!?!?! Styx!?!?!?! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

what namby pamby ass shit is THAT!!!

Now go break out your Bread records for a response.. bwaaaaaaaaaaa
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:19 PM
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56. You lose.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #56
58. LOL, a DU lounge poll?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #52
55. But infinitely more cheesy and LAME.
Just like your "arguments".

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

You lost. Get over it.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:19 PM
Response to Reply #55
57. You lose.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #57
59. Because you consistently listen to lame, cheesy music?
Yeah, I lose all right. I must really be missing out.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:36 PM
Response to Reply #59
61. If you think that that song is cheesy, it only reflects worse on Kucinich.
He's the one who saw the UFO, like in the song.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #61
64. I don't care how you think it reflects on Kucinich. I support Obama.
Whereas you support Hillary, you are just dishonest about it.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #64
66. I am against this sexist attack. n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #59
62. See further: oasis
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:25 PM
Response to Reply #62
65. LOL! It's funny because it's true.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:19 PM
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44. The articles about it themselves are sexist.
Every article I've seen so far has the tone of "that poor emotional woman--she can't keep from crying."
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Township75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:24 PM
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46. Well if she lets out a ear-splitting scream, then everyone will forget she cried, just like Dean *
*
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:27 PM
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47. Thank you. I haven't seen this new wave of ugly. I am speechless!
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 06:35 PM
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50. K&R!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:34 PM
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60. Hillary is not my first choice, but I am pretty fed up
Pretty soon I am just going to start posting "GO FUCK YOURSELF" on every single nasty post made against any of the candidates.

People can't seem to understand the difference between a critical post and a down right nasty post.

As for the sexism at DU..... I am ashamed of many Duer's today, even some I once respected. I will never be able to read their posts the same way again. Sexism is disgusting and has no place on DU.

Shame on those of you behaving that way.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:54 PM
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63. Oh my god. I can't believe it. I totally agree with you for once. /nt
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martymar64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:52 PM
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67. Whether she cries or not is irrelevant, her policies still stink.
:puke:
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