How will Hillary dissing Martin Luther King play play with African-Americans?

[BluegrassDem]

I hope the Obama campaign gets this quote out there cause it's truly disturbing and very sad that she thinks MLK wasn't as important as he was. WTF? Did she just think MLK only gave good speeches? The man lost his fucking life for the greater cause of equal justice for all!! He spent countless nights in jails, got hosed and bit by dogs to see racial justice and equality in this country, and she gives Lyndon Johnson all the fucking credit!!! Yes he signed it, but it never would've been a Civil Rights Act WITHOUT MLK!!!!

After this, I'll be interested to see how the black power structure that has kissing her and Bill's ass forever, how they will try to spin this one away. She's gonna go down big in S.C., and she really needs to go ahead and hang it up. By the way, I'm an African-American.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Clinton_and_Obama_Johnson_and_King.html

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3981471&mesg_id=3981471

[jgraz]

1. Oh, I think they're gonna LOVE it

:crazy:

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. You're kidding, right?

Sounds like you've been "hosed and bit by dogs".

[Mike Nelson]

3. Huh?

I thought she liked MLK?

[Yael]

20. Hi Mike,

They are referring to this misstep: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3981471

[xultar]

4. DUMBEST FUCKING POST OF THE DAY. I take it you're not black.

Check with black folk next time before posting such rank bullshit on a subject on which you have no training.

You can always PM me if you need to.

[Bonobo]

8. .

[IndianaJones]

16. I can't remember the last time I saw so many white people pretend to be concerned...

about Martin Luther Kings legacy.

[BluegrassDem]

26. The Clintons have taken black people for granted for too many years

They haven't done shit for black people. Bill Clinton didn't even appoint a black person to any of the big 4 jobs in government during his entire 8 years! All they've been doing is playing the patronage game with black leaders, that's why the old black guard like Andrew Young, John Lewis, support them. The young don't have the same love for the Clintons like they do. We're suffering from a lack of jobs cause of NAFTA, etc.

[terisan]

29. I have a lot of respect for John Lewis . What are these big 4 jobs you are talking about?

[BluegrassDem]

50. Clinton never appointed a black to any top govt. job in 8 years!

The Big 4 are Secretary of Defense, Justice, State, and Chief of Staff. These seats are the leaders of government. The Chief of Staff is big cause it's the closest advisor to the president and basically runs the executive branch day to day. Black people supported Bill heavily, but he never bothered once to put a black in any top govt. job.

[terisan]

53. He had the nerve to appoint a woman as secretary of state ! and Ron Brown only got Commerce !

[terisan]

54. He had the nerve to appoint a woman as Attorney General ! a woman who became handicapped!

[terisan]

55. He had the nerve to appoint a white male Republican to Defense! a man married to a Black woman !

[xultar]

30. Ahhh man A republican black woman once told me exactly the same thing you posted.

INTERESTING!

[xultar]

31. OH AND BUSH HAS APPOINTED BLACKS...SHOULD WE SUPPORT BUSH....

I just thought I'd remind you of that.

ttyl

[IndianaJones]

34. lol...white people have taken black people for granted for centuries. nt.

[cali]

5. You know what Mark Twain said about truth and lies?

Well, this lie is halfway around the world, thanks to people like you who have no regard for the truth.

[earthlover]

6. What is the quote? I missed it

[fenriswolf]

7. k if your gonna post stuff like this

please use quotes or links, i don't like hillary but these types posts dont agree with my stomach since i dont know what you're talking about.

[goldcanyonaz]

9. I'm black and can't believe how desperate some Obama people are for a candidate that's supposedly...

winning. Talk about a disservice.

We blacks know that Clinton has been fighting for us for years, and we aren't just going to jump ship after downing some Kool-aid.

[terisan]

10. Do you think black people are dumb? I urge you to mingle more.

[goldcanyonaz]

13. From many of the posts on this subject, I believe that many do think we are dumb.

[BluegrassDem]

23. Well I tend to mingle with blacks since I'm black myself

[terisan]

32. I take it you are a bluegrass fan?

[BluegrassDem]

51. bluegrass fan?

WTF are you talking about?

[IndianaJones]

11. what idiotic racist drivel your post is. nt.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

14. If you think that's bad...

you should here what HRC had to say today...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. Obama's up 20 in SC.

Thanks to solidifying black support.

I'd expect more of the same.

[Rageneau]

15. I don't even know what you're talking about, but I know you're full of crap.

Apparently you think Hillary said something insulting about MLK and want her taken to the whipping post for it.

But I've watched Hillary for 25 years and I KNOW she would not say (or even think) anything negative about Dr. King. Therefore, if you say she did, I know you're full of crap.

Shortly I will stumble across the Hillary quote you're referring to, and I'll see for myself whether she actually said anything wrong or whether -- as I suspect -- you're just another rider on the I Hate Hillary wagon with Chris Matthews and Arianna and Kos and ALL the other hate-poisoned people.

If I'm wrong and Hillary really IS guilty of dissing MLK, I'll come back here and apologize to you.

But I strongly suspect I won't have to.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

17. Denial's not just a river in Egypt.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3981471

[BluegrassDem]

18. She said that Lyndon Johnson was responsible for civil rights!

Basically saying that MLK was only good at giving speeches and that 'we needed a president to actually get it done.'

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/Clinton_and_Obama_Johnson_and_King.html

[City Lights]

19. BluegrassDem, you might want to add a link to the other DU thread on this

subject since so many people seem to not know what you're talking about.

[goclark]

36. I'm glad that HC clarified her statement later in the day

I'm African American and like her very much.

On the first statement, I can see that it would take a bit of explaining for African Americans to get what she means.

We get real touchy when our Leader of Leaders MLK is discussed without giving him his "propers."

On first read, I was wondering how many dogs and hoses touched the pants of Lyndon Johnson. I was wondering if any of his relatives had to give up their seats on the bus. I was trying to figure out if his two nice daughters MARCHED in Selma or sat at lunch counters.

HC did manage to quickly clean up her original statement.

By the way, I may be supporting OBAMA but even if I was supporting HC I would feel the same way about what she said-
I'm chalking it up to her having a bad day.

[Hieronymus]

21. What is the DU opinion on Ron Paul having called MLK a

gay child molestor? This was briefly on the news today. It was in one of many racist letters that were sent in his name, in the past.

[goclark]

52. I think maybe Ron Paul was looking in the mirror

I think Ron Paul is :puke:

[cboy4]

22. My my my, this post is racist with a capital R

:puke:

[goldcanyonaz]

24. But, it's okay because it's from an Obama supporter.

:sarcasm:

[IndianaJones]

25. thank you. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. How so?

Explain?

[City Lights]

27. KO just aired the Clinton quote of which you speak. eom

[BootinUp]

33. Hillary did not diss MLK, what are ya smokin?

Its a ridiculous reading of her statement.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

35. It's a literal reading of her statement.

Clinton wanted to discredit Obama, so she discredited MLK.

[BootinUp]

38. Was MLK elected President and I missed it? nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

39. Oh, I'm sorry...

are we all supposed to play dumb?

[BootinUp]

40. No I thought that was already taken care of. lol. nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

41. Well, you're trying to argue that HRC didn't insult MLK...

so I guess you did.

[BootinUp]

43. Its a strong case I take. Since there was no dissing in her statement.

Should MLK get 100% of the credit for the civil rights act? How much should he get? How much should Johnson get? Why do you interpret her statement crediting Johnson for his acts as an elected official as dissing? Is it not clear that both men played a vital role?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

45. 100%? No.

Johnson? Not much.

Trying to write off the contributions of MLK to civil rights while running a presidential campaign? Priceless.

[BootinUp]

46. She didn't do that though, only one blinded by animous hate would

think she did.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

48. Oh, I disagree.

Nobody but a sucker would keep making lame excuses.

[redqueen]

57. Oh c'mon!

She didn't write off MLK... she said it took a president to get the goals in his dreams turned into a reality.

It was LBJ's bullying that forced the issue in congress. Was it not?

[KingFlorez]

37. She was not dissing him

Her comment in no way was disrespectful to Martin Luther King.

[LostinVA]

42. Bullshit -- and from a RIGHT WING SOURCE

Jesus, all of you knock it off. You're disgusting.

[Anouka]

44. Why only black Americans?

change your thinking.

[suston96]

47. Hillary did not diss MLK. There is a reading comprehension problem somewhere...

What she said was correct. All of MLK's activism would have been for nothing if the President - whoever he was - did not press Congress for action.

JFK started what became the Civil Rights Act of 1964 before he was killed. Johnson promised to get it passed, and he did. That was followed by the Voting Rights Act of 1965 also pushed by President Johnson.

It's getting pretty silly around here as the usual suspects keep manufacturing Hillaryisms that do not exist.

With those double digit leads by your rock idol you are still worried? Strange.

[Cha]

49. Thanks for your post..I

hope this doesn't get buried..she needs to be held accountability for her stupid insensitivity.

I wouldn't care if you were Black or what color..this is important to all of us who care about what MLK did for our country and the sacrifices he made.

hillary's acting like a pre-K rookie.

[redqueen]

56. She didn't diss MLK.

:rofl:

But thanks for playin!