Edwards cries=passionate, Clinton cries=hysterical weak woman

[KennedyGuy]

http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do;jsessionid=459F81F009F6C5D1546F17AE8DC8D460?diaryId=3122

"Several people have passed me this video of Clinton getting emotional about politics, with sneering comments. The headline on the ABC News piece is 'Can Clinton's Emotions Get the Best of Her?' When Edwards almost gets choked up and talks about how personal XYZ person is on the trail, he's just passionate. When Clinton does it, she suddenly becomes a hysterical weak woman.
I thought her appearance was one of the sweetest, toughest, and most forthright expressions of Hillary Clinton's belief system I have ever seen. She genuinely believes this country is lost without someone who knows how to deal with the massive problems we're facing, and she genuinely doesn't think Obama can do it. Moreover, she looks kind of lost in the politics, unable to comprehend how her decades of hard work and compromises could be rejected by voters. Don't they see that Obama isn't ready? Can't they go beyond the rhetoric and look at substance? She has gotten plenty of liberal policies done, why are the liberals voting for someone else? Whatever you may think of Clinton, she has put her whole life into public service".

[youthere]

1. Well done. The sexist garbage on here today makes my blood boil.

Progressives my ass.

And for the record...I don't have a candidate I support.

[KennedyGuy]

3. I can't believe what some are willing to sacrifice for a candidate

[amborin]

13. A landslide for Obama?

Hillary was excellent in the last debate, i think she's the best qualified of those remaining in the race

unfortunately, I think there's too much misogyny in the US for her to get elected

Edwards is too preening and lightweight for any leadership position, and his debate discussion of his accomplishments as senator was pathetic, and his attacks on Hillary reprehensible

Edward's performance as Kerry's VP was also very poor, sure hope he's not deluded enough to think anyone would select him this time around

as for Obama...he's got clearly got charisma, embellished by media fervor and clever packaging

and--maybe an Obama victory would make the US feel good about itself again....

after years as the international bad guy, Iraq invader and occupier, global climate change denier, etc.....maybe we need a big boost? we need some quick way to see ourselves as good, as decent? so we elect our first African American president and show ourselves and the world that we've surpassed racism and about to pursue other laudable dreams?

and....Obama is probably the only candidate who can win in November....if Hillary can't win in Iowa when independents are voting, how could she ever win a general election?

[Beausoir]

2. This is going to backfire on the sexist pigs here and elsewhere.

Probably not in time to salvage NH...but give it time.

This thing is nowhere NEAR being over now.

[usregimechange]

4. I think what she did was good, shows her being real.

which seems like a rare thing, imo

[GreenArrow]

11. it kind of humanizes her

as did her bristling diatribe on change in the last debate.

[Madam Mossfern]

5. I think the difference is that Clinton seems to be crying out of frustration

while Edwards tears are tears of compassion. There's a difference. I don't see how she can be "lost in the politics" as she is quite a political animal, this is nothing new to her.

[KennedyGuy]

8. How can you possibly know that?

are you a psychologist?

[GreenArrow]

17. hmmm

I think Edwards' tears are the tears of an actor. How many times has everyone's favorite "compassionate conservative," George W. Bush choked up over the last few years? Plenty. Edwards' are just as fake, IMO.

As for Clinton, yeah, I suspect she's frustrated, very frustrated, and very, very tired, and it's likely to get a lot worse for her.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

6. I'm an Edwards supporter and it's pissing me off that the media constantly bashes women for crying..

The media is also blocking Edwards, so there's no love lost between me and the media. I hate corporations, and always will. However, the thing about women crying really pisses me off. Recently there was a study on that. It showed that most people consider that when a man cries, it's a serious situation and when a woman cries, she's being manipulative.

You know, I think that's why I call myself a feminist above all things. Right next to racism, sexism is there, lingering, always stinking really bad.

[maximusveritas]

7. He was talking about important issues

She was answering a question about her hair.

[abburdlen]

9. that is utter BS

Complete and utter BS

[emilyg]

10. Too stupid for words.

[femrap]

12. Did you forget the 'sarcasm' sign?

Or are you just a turd?

[CTyankee]

15. No, now that I've seen this I think she was bitten by the question asked her.

A woman would know what I mean. A seemingly unemotional question comes up (and it had to do withher getting up every day and "doing it") and it just bit into her emotionally and she responded, probably a bit more emotionally than she meant it to be.

[maximusveritas]

16. Ok, I can understand that

but there's certainly a difference between getting emotional in that situation and getting emotional when talking about important issues facing the country.

[CTyankee]

23. Yes, I agree with that point.

I am an Edwards supporter and will be through to the end, but I had to defend Hillary in her very human and small breakdown in which she didn't actually shed tears. That's really all I had to say about it. No big deal, just that I got it that she is human and she feels strongly about her campaign. It was a very human moment. I felt that I got to know her...

[pleah]

14. It is clearly unfair. It seems to me, that the media just loves to twist

everything she does against her. It sucks. I'm not a HC supporter at this time, but you have to see that they have not been fair to a lot of the candidates.

[NastyRiffraff]

18. I watched the video expecting to see her breaking down in sobs

Good God! She was asked a question that was sympathetic, and she got a little choked up. I can't BELIEVE that this is being manufacturered into an issue, first by the media, which didn't surprise me; then by some on DU, which should have surprised me but unfortunately didn't.

I'm not a Hillary fan, but I didn't see her "losing it."

"Jesus wept."

[jenmito]

19. I think they both did it out of political calculations-just like their IWR votes. n/t

[BootinUp]

20. I agree with the writer. nt

[NJmaverick]

21. I watched the video

It looked phony. It looked carefully calculated and choreographed. On top of that, the fact is there is still a portion of the Country that doesn't believe a woman is fit to be president. Many of them argue that a woman is too emotional. With the media reporting she was nearly crying (frankly that isn't how it appeared to me), it's going to hurt her. It's giving ammunition to the "women shouldn't be president" crowd.

[caligirl]

22. Well I didn't see this as sexist, i saw it as sincere and i liked her more

for her candid remarks. I think the moment stops short of winning enough people over because she remains too connected to the very interests hurting us. Money in the hundreds of thousands for a seat at the table needs to go back to the interests and she needs to let others into her inner circle of advisors, people not connected to big insurance. Even though some of those guys see health care has to change, they are in her inner circle to minimize the damage to themselves, not helpful for those like Nataline who died at the hands of CIGNA heartlessness. I still support Edwards. If Hil is the nominee I'll support her but not without some reservations regarding the amount of health care reform we would get with her. She is very skilled and knowledgeable in this area, but a tissue session without real changes in her practices of taking $$ and letting the wrong people in closer to her than the real patient advocates is void of substance to get me to change my mind.

[David__77]

24. She struck me as frustrated.

I don't care about the tearing up or whatever. I disagree with the content of her statements though. I do not believe that what she is "ready" to deliver is what is best for the US and the world.

[pstans]

25. Clinton's next sentence was a hit on Obama

She wasn't hysterical, she was phony.

[TwilightZone]

26. How can anyone deny that there is a double standard being applied?

[Inspired]

27. Can you show me a link to when Edwards cried? TIA.