Here's the complete "crying" incident with no commercials

[hedgehog]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/01/07/VI2008010700846.html


Watch it all the way through and tell me that this wasn't staged.

[maddiejoan]

1. It wasn't staged

There ya go!

[goldcanyonaz]

2. *yawn*

[LostinVA]

3. It wasn't staged

[rug]

4. Not only was it not staged, it's not well lit.

[no name no slogan]

5. Never send a newspaper man to do a television man's job

nt

[skipos]

6. Is that the right link? I get "fired up and ready to bore" nt

[hedgehog]

7. You have to go to the right and click on the other picture of Hillary,

[no name no slogan]

8. THAT was the "cry" everybody's been pissing their pants about?

Jesus H. Fucking Tapdancing Christ, some of these people really need to GET A FUCKING LIFE.

[DemCam]

10. Yep...just about said the truth there.

[BootinUp]

9. Why not just post a thread that says, "Hillary is a war monger" ?

and stop with the beating around the bush. lol.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

11. I'm an Edwards supporter to the end, but I wish to God people stopped attacking women for crying

When are we going to attack men for crying? The other day a female exec where I worked cried out of anger, and the male execs practically ate her alive. I'm sure sometimes people might pretend to be crying and not be crying, but there are times when people really do get choked up. It happened to me with a husband and he told me to stop using crocodile tears. That pretty much shifted the gears of my mood and caused me to call him an asshole, because what else is a person who ridicules your emotions, if not an asshole? On the other hand, when men cry, oh boy, women get worried, men get all uncomfortable and discuss whether to take the guy out for a drink, and everyone goes into high gear to solve his problem. Yet if a woman cries, she's a manipulative bitch who's using crocodile tears. Well, I don't care who cries. People have the right to cry. It's TIME we get over our right wing extremist bullshit hatred of women crying. I HATE THAT SHIT. And sorry for ranting on so much about this.

[Horse with no Name]

12. Have you ever seen a thread about Boehner crying?

Or GHWB crying?

[Sarah Ibarruri]

14. No. Why? nt

[Horse with no Name]

16. Because they didn't get a pass on it either. n/t

[Sarah Ibarruri]

19. Okay, but I get very very EDGY about the crying issue.....

.... I've seen women cry at work and they end up being ridiculed. It makes me want to deck somebody when I hear them ridicule a crying person, PARTICULARLY a woman because WE WOMEN have more of a propensity to automatically cry WITHOUT ELICITING IT, but men seem to think we push A FUCKING CRYING BUTTON and bring tears on, simply because some men couldn't cry even if someone pierced them with a lance from side to side. So excuse me if it makes me violent when I hear or see some women being ridiculed for crying. Maybe I'm a bit psycho that way but I think everyone should be allowed to cry any time the crying comes to their face and, hell, even when it doesn't. That's all I have to say on that.

Now back to Edwards, whom I love and will work hard for.

[hedgehog]

17. When I heard that she'd shed a few tears, I sympathized with someone

who is probably exhausted. When I saw and heard the complete incident, I have to think that it was prepped ahead of time to elicit sympathy while planting some barbs on her opponents.

[pnwmom]

18. I don't think it was staged. I think she experienced an emotional moment,

in response to the question, then pulled herself back on message.

[dailykoff]

21. People only experience "moments" lilke that on TV.

Note that the cameras were rolling.

[pnwmom]

22. I've experienced plenty of moments like that and I've never been on TV. n/t

[dailykoff]

27. It was the scripted lines she was reciting.

Come on, how many moments have you tossed off tear-jerking zingers while "losing it" on television in front of the entire freaking nation?

[pnwmom]

40. I said that I'd had emotional moments, and I have, when talking about something

important to me. I had no trouble believing she could too, whether or not the TV cameras were running.

I think she transitioned from answering the questioner, which caught her a little emotionally off-guard -- to getting back on message with the rest of her comment. The stuff at the end was scripted, but not the emotion earlier.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

23. I've ended up crying out of anger. I'd rather not cry because I know how men take it....

... most men think it's a game women are up to. :(

[sandnsea]

24. She's being attacked for being a PHONY

Phony Phony Phony.

Not for crying because she didn't cry anyway.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

25. Well, I get in a very vile mood when women are attacked for crying....

.. As a woman I've been there, being ridiculed for crying, and it makes me spew pea soup when the same thing happens to someone else. Being ridiculed for something you cannot control is shit.

[sandnsea]

28. Yeah, and when women use manipulative tears

it pisses me off because we get attacked for crying when it's just emotional release, and we get attacked for using tears as weapons when we aren't. So when Hillary cries for the first time in her professional life over a campaign, well sorry but I'm not buying. And it makes me mad that she'd do that and not think of how many women are going to have to deal with the aftermath.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

29. Manipulative tears, eh? When do you use manipulative tears? nt

[dailykoff]

31. Turn on any sitcom

and you'll see.

[sandnsea]

36. Life isn't a sitcom

Maybe you should try an example from real life.

[dailykoff]

38. Right, but my point is that it was written by a sitcom writer.

Listen to what she says and how she says it.

[sandnsea]

41. Oh, I see. Missed that. Sorry. n/t

[pnwmom]

44. You're saying that the question was scripted?

Because the woman who asked it would disagree with you.

[dailykoff]

46. I'm saying the little sermonette that followed was scripted.

Come on, it comes at the end of every sitcom and every 40s weepie.

[pnwmom]

51. I can believe that. I think the emotion in response to the question was genuine,

then she got back on track and back on script.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

54. KMA nt

[sandnsea]

33. I. Don't. Are you going to pretend there aren't women who do? n/t

[Sarah Ibarruri]

53. There might be! But MOST DO NOT.

I'm getting really really really pissed off at men who think that crying is a manipulative ploy on the part of women. I came very close to punching in the mouth a man that said as much, and I'm a petite little woman who doesn't give the appearance of being violent. However, this brings me to the limit. I might not be able to hold myself back next time.

[pnwmom]

43. You just admitted she didn't cry! And now you're accusing her of

using manipulative tears. Get a grip. You hate her and you're willing to say anything.

I've been an Obama leaner since the race began, and I like Edwards a lot too, but I'm sick of all the Hillary trashing.

[sandnsea]

52. She faked cried, and faked it so badly there were no tears

That's what I've said all day long. It's a manipulative tear jerking episode - without tears.

I do not like the Clintons. I do not think their policies are good for this country or the world. I don't think they fought hard enough for labor rights and the rights of working income people. I think they helped Republicans frame issues in a way that made it so easy for them to push their agenda these last years. So no matter who was running against them, you bet I was going to fight it every step of the way. I'll keep fighting until people realize that theirs is the wrong path for this country.

[pnwmom]

42. That's your opinion. n/t

[Anouka]

57. You're right about that.

I saw a picture of what was really going down over at Daily Kos. The writer said that whole thing was staged with the tight close-up shots, like it was the view, but why would anyone stage an intimate sit down with so few people when the state is on the line?

Someone else asked when was the last time anyone had seen Hillary Clinton cry, about anything? And it's true.

She is pretending to be someone she's not. If that pretense includes softening up and pretending to choke up, then she'll do it.

I believe when Hillary cries, it's where no one can see her real tears. She's spent her entire life swallowing her emotions in public, her tears, her feelings, trying to 'be strong' in public. That doesn't go away just because the polls tell her to do so.

She is phony; but I believe it's because being phony was the only way to succeed, for her.

And when the phoniness doesn't work, she blames everyone but herself.

I will never get over how she dissed the entire state of Iowa for not putting her first. That is the real Hillary.

I want to see her lose tonight, lose New Hampshire, so that the real Hillary comes out.

Hillary wants the presidency for herself, not for the American people. Just as she wanted the New York Senate seat for herself and her ambitions, not for the people of New York. It was all so carefully planned....

until that damned Obama showed up. (Or is it planned, still?)

[DesertRat]

37. Thank you Sarah.

I couldn't agree more!!

[dailykoff]

13. Weren't the Clintons best buddies with a couple who wrote sitcom screenplays?

They had a big hit back in the Clinton era and they produced a movie he showed at the 92 convention. Can't think of their name. But this is exactly the kind of treacly barf they were good at.

[dailykoff]

20. p.s. Harry Thomason, and the show was called Designing Women.

which I never saw, but I suspect Harry's been helping out an old friend.

[NashVegas]

15. She Wasn't Crying

Her voice got a little choked, but that was about it.

Hey, did you hear Obama's doctor ordered him to rest his voice? Seems exhaustion is taking its toll.

[dailykoff]

26. Cue the Waltons music.

How many people really burble soundbytes as they get emotional in front of whirring cameras? CLUE: NOBODY.

[lumpy]

30. It wasn't staged. What a bunch of hooey-

It's better she has emotion than cold calculation. Clinton isn't my first choice, not that I feel she couldn't do the job, but rather there are too many voters that wouldn't vote for a woman no matter what. Really crazy isn't it, considering women generally do more and above what is expected of them.

[robbedvoter]

32. Not staged. But you're pathetic.

[HughMoran]

34. It wasn't staged

Stop it, just STOP IT!! This is awful!

[DesertRat]

35. Doesn't look at all staged to me. n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

39. Easy. I did. It wasn't staged. n/t

[Thrill]

45. She remembered to steal Edwards Lines

[goodgd_yall]

47. You see what you want to see.

I didn't see crying, that's for sure. I heard a catch in the voice, some emotion.

You anti-Hillary people are such fools.

[DeadElephant_ORG]

48. HAS THE CONTENT THIS LINKS TO CHANGED SINCE POSTED?

What I got was a hit piece depicts Hillary as painfully boring to an NH crowd that has come to hear and cheer her. No crying. What's up?

[Vektor]

50. I had to click on a a link to the right.

I was subjected to the hit piece too.

The "reporter's" voice was like a knife to the colon.

[Vektor]

49. I didn't think it seemed staged, nor was she out of control.

She just seemed a little choked up over the state of the country.

I think we all are.

[ElizabethDC]

55. I don't think it was staged

my best friend, who's a hard-core Obama supporter, said the clip made her want to vote for Hillary - she really liked it.

[DemExpat]

56. It does not at all look staged to me.

I see a moment of choking up, wet eyes and exhaustion - then regaining composure.

DemEx