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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:55 PM
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Is Hillary's campaign now reminding you of Bush 2004's?
The same talking points are coming. "Vote for my opponent and you'll go broke from taxes and then al-Qaeda will kill us all". It's almost the exact same campaign.
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ObamaAmerican Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:56 PM
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1. Hillary is the candidate of fear. Obama is the candidate of hope .eom
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:57 PM
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8. And change! Don't forget the Change! Hope! Change! Hope! Change!
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:06 PM
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28. Hope FOR WHAT? Change TO WHAT?
Inquiring minds want to know.
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:26 PM
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27. I'm for Edwards but I'm tired of all the rhetoric about Hillary
I think she will surprise a lot of folks if she's elected president.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:56 PM
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2. No not really and I'm an Edward's supporter.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:56 PM
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3. No. Hillary is nothing like Bush.
Hillary is disappointing me a lot lately. But Bush shames this country every day he remains in office.

There is no comparison.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:56 PM
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4. Get ready for the onslaught.
I gotta tell you - after her comment today, Bush was a little too close for comfort. I don't think she needs to resort to such things and wonder why she is.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:57 PM
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5. frightening ...cuz that means lots of hidden agendas
doesn't it?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:57 PM
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6. No, not really.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:57 PM
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7. Just for the fuck of it ....
Please provide exact citations, including date and source ....
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:00 PM
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14. See these new mailers


As for the other, just see any thread here about Olbermann.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:09 PM
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21. Obama's stand on social security is a tax increase on middle class in the mega cities
with no increase in benefits to those he proposes taxing. He has falsely claimed, just as Bush has, that there is a social security crisis. The only problem with social security is that Bush and Reagan took income from social security to fund tax cuts for the wealthy. ....and Bush doesn't want to pay it back. The social security trust fund is owed big money from the government. Clinton's surpluses would have gone to pay that money back. Bush squandered it on war debt and Obama wants to tax middle and upper middle class voters instead of re-taxing the wealthy.
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ButterflyBlood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:14 PM
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22. Obama wants to remove the cap on taxation.
That only effects those making over $97k a year. That's not the middle class.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:20 PM
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24. It is middle class in NYC, Los Angeles, Washington DC, San Francisco,
anyplace where housing is out of sight.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:24 PM
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26. Obama is trying to overtax part of the middle class in order to let super rich keep Bush tax cuts.
Obama gets more money from a Wall Street firm like Goldman Sachs than Clinton does. He is doing their bidding on social security. She isn't.
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Nickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:01 PM
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18. Stuff like this
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/07/cheney.terror/index.html

Cheney: Kerry win risks terror attack

"The vice president stands by his quote in context," she said. "Whoever is elected in November faces the prospect of another terrorist attack. The question is whether or not we have the right policies in place to best protect our country. That's what the vice president said."

Womack went on: "As the president and vice president have both said, John Kerry has a fundamental misunderstanding of the war on terror.

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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:58 PM
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9. No, but DU is certainly reminding me of '04.
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mtnsnake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:58 PM
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10. yeah sure. I'll bet they're in bed together at this very minute
just so they can swap secrets of the trade.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:59 PM
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11. But, it worked so well
for bush. Hope they've had bush fatigue and clinton fatigue now.
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Bonobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:59 PM
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12. Absolutely not. That shit don't belong in DU either. P.U.!!!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 09:59 PM
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13. Keep Moving... Nothing To See Here...
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:00 PM
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15. The New Hampshire blitz of lifted talking points
is straight out of the 2000 playbook, when Junior came on as the "reformer with results" and supposedly wowed NH into putting him ahead of McCain.

Does NH vote with voting machines?
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:01 PM
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16. Mark Penn probably worked for the Bush Crime Family in 2004
By his own admission, he did in 1996 :evilgrin:
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:01 PM
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17. No i think she is straightforward. I like that she doesn't downplay reproductive rights.
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:02 PM
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19. Actually, what your tired rhetoric sounds like
is that of the Swiftvets in 2004.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:03 PM
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20. No, but your commentary sounds like...
the swiftboaters from 2004.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:20 PM
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23. That WAS disgusting indeed!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 10:21 PM
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25. NO
but your talking points sound familiar.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-07-08 11:12 PM
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29. I'd say the same for Obama's Rethug talking points on Social Security
Why do you suppose that between them, Clinton and Obama get the most corporate money? Yes, I know Edwards gets some, but he is running third in that category, and by sheerest coincidence I'm sure, also running third in the polls as well. Kucinich, who flat out won't take the stuff, is "unelectable" for exactly that reason.
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