Chuck Todd: Obama is Dean 2.0

[Renew Deal]

He got the bugs out.

This was on KO.

[Pirate Smile]

1. Psst - it's Chuck.

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3. lol, thanks

:dunce:

[Radical Activist]

2. No, that's Hillary.

Coming in third in Iowa and then tanking after being the so-called front runner.

[Kucinich4America]

4. Who the Hell is this Chuck Todd idiot anyway?

"Dean wasn't big enough for the movement"?? What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

Dean WAS the movement. Dean continued the movement even after he stopped running. 2006 was the result of the Dean movement. And if Obama or Edwards or whomever succeeds in shutting down the DLC's attempt to throw the Presidential election for the third consecutive time, it will be a result of the movement started by Howard Dean.

Bite me, Chuck.

[ellisonz]

7. Well there is...

http://www.democracyforamerica.com/

[madfloridian]

17. Nice post....Todd is said to be the go to guy when the conservative wing of the party

needs help with brash newcomers.

Give him time, Obama will be in his sites as well.

[Eurobabe]

19. Chcuk Todd is MSNBC's political director with a HUGE conflict of interest

His wife works for McCain.

Fair and balanced? I don't think so. This guy is a dickwad.

[lvx35]

5. Man, that paints some funny pictures in my head...

...like seeing the Windows 98 blue screen of death super imposed over the "Dean Scream". Disturbing.

[mahina]

6. Yargh.

Or, yeeeeaaaarrrgh. I was a Dean supporter all the way. So, Yeargh. :)

[Cha]

16. Yeah, and we still get to

support that Dean!

[mahina]

22. Yeppers!

What I want to know is :) are you ready to take America back? I still have his postcard on the wall with Martin and Bobby Kennedy. He inspired and connected so many of us who are still engaged. Eo!

[Cha]

27. I have his pic all over the

place and everytime I look at him I get inspired..funny how some people can do that(It's all that work he's done for us). I missed that one on Bobby and Martin, Sweet!

I got my tank top that says I Want My Country Back! I'm gonna wear it when get back to KauaiB-)

[madfloridian]

8. No comparison. Chuck Todd meant that as an insult.

The way he said it was quite clear. That Dean was not up to the movement.

I guess I tune out all TV even Countdown for a while.

[Quixote1818]

9. More like MLK Jr. 2.0 or JFK 2.0.

Dean's campaign was about anger (always a loser)
Obama's campaign is about hope and bringing people together (always a winner)

[madfloridian]

12. If Dean had not put his neck on the chopping block to speak out...

there would be no Obama this time. The party was not set up to be friendly to new candidates....Dean has done that at the DNC.

I am sick of the comparisons. I am sick of the Obama people jumping on Dean.

Dean is the reason Obama could get this far.

[Quixote1818]

14. I am not an Obama supporter. I support Edwards and I have no problem with Dean

I think he has done an awesome job. My one disagreement with Dean was that he didn't run his campaign on hope or something positive etc. which was needed on a National Level. However, he probably needed to take the route he did to get the Dem nomination because we were all pissed off. I suspect he would have changed his campaign into a positive campaign after winning the nomination.

[madfloridian]

15. Yes, his campaign was mostly about hope.

He was angry also, but all of them should have been.

[mahina]

26. Can't actually agree with much of your point, but

for sure, Dean's 50 state strategy has made our party stronger. Taking another thoughtful look at our assumptions was the smartest thing we've done in a long time, next to making Dean the DNC head. We have a couple of people that his plan put here, who have made a huge difference. This is a blue state, but it was trending in a very different direction, for a number of reasons. I give Howard Dean the credit for turning that around. Hoping and working for a deep blue Hawaii!

[Cha]

20. No, Dean was the forerunner for

Obama..I hear a lot of inspiring words from Obama like I did from Dean..Dean wasn't about "anger" ..that's m$$$$m marginalizing bullshit. And you fell for it?

[killbotfactory]

10. Dean had the people, but lacked the organization

Obama has both.

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11. That was Todd's point.

[madfloridian]

13. Todd was a party weapon against Dean in 03.

He would go on TV and give a sort of lecture to Dean if the party leaders were upset. He spouted their talking points.

Todd meant it to keep Dean in his place.

[Cha]

18. Yeah, and now carville's

supposedly running hillary's show..he better keep his fangs in when Dean's around.

[madfloridian]

21. That is unacceptable to me completely.

Some things can not be forgiven or forgotten

[Cha]

24. Thanks, mad~ That's a

keeper..it makes me feel good just reading someone else's take on that whole stupid thing that carville did on tv. What the heck was he thinking? About a hillary run and they wanted the whole pot to themselves?

[madfloridian]

25. And that New Donkey is a centrist blog. It was good to read it.

:hi:

[Cha]

29. I saw that...touche!

:hi:

[madfloridian]

23. I think Todd's wife is McCain's campaign director.

Yet he is considered a great source about Democrats. I think KO needs to start calling out his guests who insult people who are not even running.

And I thought KO was rude about Hillary tonight.

[BenDavid]

28. no he's not dean 2.0 -Obama: The John Kerry of 2008

The mediawhores, pink-tutu democrats and Pony Whiners have decided that this placid, pleasant, untroubled man with the intensity of Bing Crosby is going to carry the ticket for the Democrats and miraculously defeat the determined, warlike Republicans.This light-weight is going to be eaten alive.

The best we Americans can hope for at this point is that the Republican who will be elected will not be as evil as Monkeyboy and Unka Dick. Perhaps he will simply be incompetent -- what a relief that will be.

[Cha]

30. Whatever..like you have

crystal ball.

[Renew Deal]

31. Hillary is Kerry 2.0. Doesn't know what she stands for

and a guaranteed loser.