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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:19 AM
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Dan Abrams: Top-Five Candidate Lies
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnnhVkoS9m0

#5 McCain
#4 Clinton
#3 Romney
#2 Giulliani
#1 Romney
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:33 AM
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1. "I do provide universal health care." Barack Obama.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/210/
He says universal, but it's no guarantee
Obama’s plan includes a mandate to insure children, but it does not include a mandate for adults, as the Clinton and Edwards plans do. That likely means not as many people will be insured, said Kenneth Thorpe, professor of health policy and management at Emory University.

>snip<

So is it fair for Obama to call his plan “universal”? Well, not really. Even if you buy his argument that his plan will create the market conditions to make health care universally available, nothing in his plan guarantees it. We rate his claim Barely True.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:40 AM
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2. "barely true" is true - and a lie is a lie.
next?
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:44 AM
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3. OK, so here's four "lies" using your word:

Calling his plan "universal" even though it isn't, is "true"?
Ok....

Recent statements by Barack Obama ruled as "false" by Politifact:

"Gas prices have never been higher, and Exxon Mobil's profits have never been higher."
Wednesday, December 26th, 2007 in a speech in Iowa
>> Details

"If we went back to the obesity rates that existed in 1980, that would save the Medicare system a trillion dollars."
Thursday, December 13th, 2007 in Johnston, Iowa
>> Details

"John wasn’t this raging populist four years ago" when he ran for president.
Thursday, November 8th, 2007 in Chariton, Iowa
>> Details

"Right now, an employer has more of a chance of getting hit by lightning than be prosecuted for hiring an undocumented worker. That has to change."
Thursday, November 15th, 2007 in Las Vegas
>> Details

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/personalities/barack-obama/
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 08:46 AM
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4. Abrams used Politifact and still found Clinton among the top 5 "fibbers."
Perhaps you should take up your discontent with his list with him because it is what it is ...
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