I don’t want someone to “reach across the aisle”

[SHRED]

I don’t want someone who plays nice.
I don't want someone who makes people cry at his speeches.

I want someone who knows what to do with these Repub scumbags now that they are down.
I want a fighter.

GO EDWARDS!!!!
:patriot:

[Evergreen Emerald]

1. Pelosi tried to reach across the isle, remember? Where did it get her

It is not the Democarts. When you reach across the isle, there has to be a hand reaching from the other side.

[mac2]

2. Pelosi is the other side of the isle.

We want a change.

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. No. Pelosi was doing what obama is suggesting.

Look where it got her.

[WhiteTara]

38. Exactly. And I don't care if Hillary teared up

That's crying? Really. I know crying and that was exhaustion and letting down one's guard...Hillary is being "Dean Scream"ed. She was in the moment with those women and they were in a deep heart place.

The new swift boating.

[mac2]

40. Look what it got us and hasn't changed on bit

http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/images/12/14/ldt.email.pdf

There is no excuse that you didn't know the law. "No one is above the law; even the President of the United States." screamed the Republicans when they wanted to impeach Clinton for lying about his private, consensual sexual affair with Monica. Now they don't know what the laws "is". The elites make up their own and ignore all sorts of criminality and treason within the government today.

[ccpup]

3. Larry Craig also tried to reach across the aisle

and look where it got him! Oh ... wait ...

Never mind. :evilgrin:

[babylonsister]

5. Ha!

:thumbsup:

[youthere]

36. I think he was trying to reach AROUND the aisle if you get my meaning.

[Ninga]

4. "Nice" got us John Roberts and Sam Alito. Where were Clinton and Obama then?

Which one of them took off the gloves and fought?

Which one of them led on the fight?

Which one of them tried to marshall the American people to support a filabuster?


Where was Obama's passionate speech then?


Roberts and Alito will be shaping the Supreme Court for generations......


.

[Skidmore]

6. The aisle is the problem and those who occupy those seats on each side of the aisle

have been problems and impediments to progress and peace. I'm for destroying the aisle and sending a few of them packing.

[riqster]

7. Reach across the aisle, then kick 'em in the nuts

Go KOOCH!

[AtomicKitten]

8. I guess you missed the part where Obama said if they're in the way

they will be pushed out of the way - politely.

[mckeown1128]

9. I think Obama has the right idea...

He isn't reaching across the aisle he is convincing the people on the other side of the aisle to cross over and take a seat on our side.

[Sparkly]

20. I'm not sure about that. His style is compromise.

Not saying that's wrong necessarily. He compromised in Illinois, did he not? He talks about "bridging differences," not convincing Republicans to come over to our side.

[mckeown1128]

26. but he IS convincing republicans to join our side...

Look at Iowa. The polls show him double digits over all of republicans in Iowa for the GE. He has state flipping appeal. His policies are nearly identical to Clinton and Edwards. He is like a liberal ronald reagan. reagan (unfortunately) didn't compromise his insane policies, but still managed to convince hoards of indies and Democrats to vote for him.

[Sparkly]

27. I agree he's very appealing as a candidate.

Just saying his style as a legislator/politician is compromise.

[TheDebbieDee]

32. But, I don't want those people on our side of the aisle.........

Most of those people probably voted for * twice. They're too STUPID to sit on our side of the aisle.

[ellacott]

10. Just because Edwards says he's going to fight doesn't mean he'll be effective

And he's already said that his fight is not against the congress but against the entrenched coporate interests.

He keeps saying that he will fight but doesn't specify how he'll do it.

[Ninga]

28. He has already done it...and did it for 20 years....and it was real work not politics.

His small little law firm, went up against big corporations....and beat them.

He knows what he is talking about.

[ellacott]

30. You don't operate in the same manner in the WH as you do in the court house

How is he going to do it in the WH?

[Ninga]

33. When the POTUS speaks, the world listens. It is called "the bully pulpit". Additionally

Edwards will have a Cabinet, staff and be able to pick his own Attorney General. All of this plays into the mix of what a President can accomplish.

He has the power of the pen to sign or to veto.

Additionally, when he wins, it will be a reflection of what the voting public wants accomplished. It is called a mandate.

Clinton and Obama have never taken to the podium as Senator's, spoken to the American people about critical topics.

Neither one of them advocated a filibuster to defeat the confirmation of John Roberts or Sam Alito to the Supreme Court.

In fact, both Clinton and Obama should have been able to "whip" the other Democrats into voting Ney....where was the big speeches then???

Obama has never given the speech of a life time while being a Senator, to promote or to defeat important votes.

[ellacott]

35. Did Edwards do this while in the Senate?

[QueenOfCalifornia]

11. K&R

I feel so much the same way. Playing patty-cake with the bully is not only stupid....

it's dangerous.

[Thrill]

12. Edwards had a chance to fight six yrs in the Senate

And did nothing. He had a chance to fight as VP in 04 and he proved to be a wimp. He's done nothing for us here in NC. He's fought for nothing for us here. Get Real

[DangerDave921]

19. Nice reminder

One thing the Edwards supporters consistently ignore is his senate record, and his performances running for VP. They love his image, they love his talk, they love the idea of a passionate populist president. But what, in the past, has Edwards really done from a political standpoint?

[Thrill]

22. I live in NC. And I know this guy is a big time phony

[DangerDave921]

29. LOL

Well he apparently has a lot of folks around the country fooled.

I can't see him without thinking he's giving me a closing argument in one of his cases, trying to appear as sincere and caring as possible. Something about him just makes me distrust him.

[Alcibiades]

43. I'm from NC, and I know he's not

[Alcibiades]

42. Like Dole and Burr have been so much better

Edwards wasn't VP in '04. He earned our party's nomination for Vice President.

I'm sure you're much more accomplished than Senator Edwards.

[DrFunkenstein]

13. Sorry, I'd Rather Pass Health Care and Energy Reform

Sure, it has been a fun 8 years with Bush, but I'd like to move on to getting things done instead of continuing the politic theatrics.

[RoadRage]

15. Totally..

Agree!

[SCantiGOP]

34. I also agree

Not reaching across the aisle means you care more about retribution than fixing this country, and would rather fight than get something done. I know several people who have voted for a Republican for the last 4 or 5 presidential elections but are seriously saying that they could vote for Obama. That is not only good for the Democratic Party, it's good for the country.

[RoadRage]

14. What exactly has Not trying to comprimise gotten us so far?

What.. do we want 4 - 8 more years of a Democratic president with a soon-to-be Republican congress & senate.. where yet again this country sits in total gridlock where nothing gets processed except for higher wages for those sitting in Washington, doing nothing?

I DO NOT understand why trying to get people to work together is seen as such a bad thing. Isn't this EXACTLY what we accuse the Bush administration of NOT doing - and one of the (many) reasons why we despise him for it? Or, is it a double edge sword.. it's horrible when the Republicans do it, but damnit.. give us 10 minutes back in the white house and we're going to do it too.

Sorry, someone has to be the "bigger" party here, and it's going to have to be the democrats. Continual fighting without trying to work out comprimises is not the answer.. it's what we've had for years, and it's part of the reason that this country is where it is right now - in the shitter.

[DrFunkenstein]

31. GOP Will Not Have a Majority For Years (Maybe Decades), But...

They still have more than an enough to pull a few scared Democrats to stop any major change. We need to pull Republicans our way. That's how you win major reform. Clinton found that out the hard way, and most of his accomplishments were minor after getting bogged down in fights with Republicans.

[Perky]

16. I do.....But on our terms not theirs.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3989850

[Apollo11]

17. Obama has found an effective way to connect with swing voters

Obama's campaign is all about building a coalition that includes two groups:

1) partisan Democrats who want to punish the Republicans and reverse the damage done by the Bush-Cheney Administation.

2) independent and swing voters who believe that Washington is too partisan and who don't like to see politicians fighting each other.

Of course it is sometimes confusing for those of us in the first group. But it is very smart politically and you never know - it might just work! B-)

If it works then Obama will get not just 8 years in the Whitehouse but also with working Democratic majorities in both the House and the Senate.

[wizstars]

18. I want someone to reach across the aisle...

...with the biggest f#$%ing club they can swing.
And down Pennsylvania Avenue, too.

Bash some f#$%ing re-pig-lican heads!

I also want to legalize hunting conservatives with dogs.

[mac2]

41. That's about it

How can you compronise with crooks, liars, and traitors when your country's future is at stake? Maybe even you life?

[The Backlash Cometh]

21. My sentiments, exactly.

[Meshuga]

24. So, do you want someone who will not get anything done?

Good luck!

I want someone who is willing to reach across the aisle in order to get shit done. Someone who is willing to compromise for positive change.

That's why I'm in a position where I wouldn't mind seeing Obama or Hillary winning the nomination and wanting to see Edwards' demise in this primary process. I hope he loses because he has become a pretty annoying self-righteous candidate. His campaign has Joe Trippi's paw prints all over it.

[Politicub]

25. I'm of the opinion that

"reaching across the aisle" means giving the republicans what they want. They are masters of digging in their heels, while we Dems make concessions. Has it ever gotten us anything, other than a bunch of garbage?

[Radical Activist]

37. Sure. Giving inflammatory speeches is more fun than getting things done.

Never mind what Edwards' record in the Senate was.

[redqueen]

39. Hear fucking hear!

We already had a triangulator thanks very much...