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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:12 PM
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If Hillary finishes third again or Obama breaks 50%
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 01:12 PM by Perky
SHe is going to need to reassess continuing.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:13 PM
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1. No mention of Edwards, or did you write him off a long time ago?
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:14 PM
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4. Well, if she finishes third
it will be behind both Obama and Edwards, so he's in there.
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book_worm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 PM
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7. If Hill is second then Edwards, in all liklihood, would be second
which would be considered a stronger than expected showing.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:28 PM
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30. back to remedial math for you...lol
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democraticmuslim Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:38 PM
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37. Hillary will not quit
Hillary will not quit. It is way to early to believe what is going to happen. Bill lost Iowa and he was elected 2 times. Hillary is far from out of the race. People know Hillary Clinton and they know how tough she is. She can instill fear into people and that is what a good leader needs to be able to do. She has always been a friend to Islam and she only wants peace for America and the world.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:14 PM
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2. No matter what happens, all three will stay in until Super Tues.
It's all happening so fast there's no reason to drop out till then.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 PM
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13. I wouldn't be surprised if they all gut it out until the convention.
Could be a lot of twists and turns in the road before then.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:19 PM
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19. If Obama sweeps through Super Tues I think that'll pretty much be it.
I'm a little surprised that he's gotten such a pronounced bounce from Iowa. Looks like he's really taking off.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:14 PM
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3. The arogance of the Obama camp..
is one of many things that I dislike about his campaign.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:17 PM
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16. The same can be said of HRC - that we should vote for her because. oh and because Terra Terra!
eom
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:21 PM
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25. The media gave the aura of inevitability to her.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:31 PM
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31. Well, she's stupid for polling the media vs. real people
And not writing off those with cell phones ;)
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:37 PM
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32. She did not poll the media.
The Obamites needs to stop making of crap.
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Kittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:39 PM
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33. Well, she didn't poll anyone I know - and we're all progressives :) eom
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:51 PM
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35. One thing for sure
the lady is not stupid.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:20 PM
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What arrogance?
This is a winnowing process..and if anyone finishes third or fourth in the first two or three tilts. There is little chance they are going to break through anywhere down the road. I would say the same if it were Obama or Edwards.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:20 PM
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24. What arrogance?
This is a winnowing process..and if anyone finishes third or fourth in the first two or three tilts. There is little chance they are going to break through anywhere down the road. I would say the same if it were Obama or Edwards.
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:08 PM
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38. I know it sounds like a mean remark
but when he entered the room a couple of days ago he appeared to have a cocky swagger.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 PM
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5. What if Obama doesn't reach 50%
is that a defeat?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 PM
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10. No, that's the expectation.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:19 PM
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22. so..if he doesn't meet expectations..is that a defeat?
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:21 PM
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26. No, if he's defeated it's a defeat
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 PM
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6. no, I think she may shake up her team.
I don't think she's ready to bail out. Just my opinion.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 PM
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8. If he comes close to 50%
She could be done.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 PM
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9. I don't think so. Two white bread states with a few delegates...
...does not mean she should give up. She is well funded and has a truly impressive organization. Feb. 5 is the real test. The rest of the country should have a chance to participate in this decision.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:23 PM
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27. Clinton's organization is nothing compared to Obama's in my state
We're a Super Tuesday state and Obama has had an office here since October. The Clinton office just opened a few days ago. We have a 3 month head start and mail in ballots have already gone out. I'm told this is the case across the country. The Clinton campaign has a lot of money but little to no support from Dem activists, and she's not attracting masses of volunteers like Obama is.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:41 PM
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34. "Two white bread states"
LOL.
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ieoeja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 02:11 PM
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36. No kidding.

The urban minority can only win in predominately rural and caucasian states. When he hits states that are more urban and minority, the urban minority guy won't stand a chance.

:crazy:


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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:15 PM
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11. NBC/TWEETY/JIMMY are trying to push her out of the race using this meme - just as Gore was
told by GE/NBC/JIMMY to not challenge Bush - for the good of the country.
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weeve Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:18 PM
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18. Don't forget ABC
I'll never forget that sleazy Ted Koppel on Nightline urging Gore every night during the legal challenge to throw in the towel FOR THE GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.

And watching Nightline's continual swiftboating of John Edwards this time around, is beyond outrage.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:54 PM
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39. true - it makes it easy to distrust every MSM news/talk show
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 PM
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12. Edwards finishes second would be great
That might guarantee him second in South Carolina where he is presently a distant third.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 PM
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14. I'm thinking who ever
engineered this early, front loaded primary is kicking their self right now.

But January is still too early to talk about dropping out as long as you still have the funds.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:18 PM
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17. I agree...but you can't go negative to try and get back in it
if Obama wins the first four tilts.
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abburdlen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:23 PM
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28. you don't have to go negative
if you wait long enough the press will happily go negative on each and every democratic candidate.

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BigDDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:16 PM
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15. Definitely, we should just let Iowa and NH decide
Great idea!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:19 PM
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20. But, these states have the largest population! Get with the program.
:sarcasm:
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:20 PM
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23. No, just Iowa.
NH: "Yeah, what Iowa said."
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:19 PM
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21. She'll get through Feb. 5th and I think Edwards will, too.
Whichever way it goes today.
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 01:25 PM
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29. I hope all three of them stay in 'til Super Tuesday....
but wouldn't it be nice if they didn't spend any money?
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sleipnir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 03:55 PM
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40. She needs to reassess continuing regardless of today's outcome.
But, that's just my two cents.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:16 PM
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41. And if Hillary wins and Obama blows a double digit lead overnight?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 09:18 PM
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42. I almost kicked this thread but controlled myself
Glad you didn't.
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