"Last throes of Clintonism." Interesting view of last WINNING Democrat at "Democratic Underground"

[Proud2BAmurkin]

I think there is a weird masochistic streak among some Democrats where winning = losing and losing = winning. I know it's a trait of a lot of college age kids (band gets famous, band is sellout). I don't get the hate for our last winning two term president who was hated by RePUKES more than any other liberal in American history.

:wtf:

[sniffa]

1. interesting

another thread from you. :thumbsup:

who was the last Democrat Prez to get impeached?

[Proud2BAmurkin]

3. You think the PUKE impeachment is a black mark against Clinton? Wow. nt

nt

[bunnies]

13. Clinton lying to the entire country is a black mark against Clinton.

Im sure I dont need to remind you of the quote.

[terisan]

21. I thought he was just being a jerk--Bush's lies killed hundreds of thousands and impoverished us.

Americans are afraid of Bush. they did not fear Clinton.

[bunnies]

32. I think Bush might make people fear Clinton more.

This is just speculation on my part. But for me... Im much more weary of liars than I used to be. Even though I thought the whole impeachment was bullshit.

[terisan]

17. We are dealing with middle of the roaders. They want the 1950s. The Brady Bunch

forerunners or maybe Lassie or Father Knows Best. No racial problems because we don't see them on the reruns. Happy Mommas who are there to bandaid the boo boos, loyal dogs, Dads who come home at night and read the paper. No problem putting the food on the family. No atom bomb ever spoken about. Cold War horrors? didn't exist in the tv feature world.

The independents fell for it in 2001 (Gore was telling people that they were getting screwed and the independents did not want to hear it) and clung to it 2004

It explains to me the vicious attacks on those who would burst the balloon with facts. People get angry when someone tells them that it is going to be tough. But it is.

[ClericJohnPreston]

20. A more perfect analysis and analogy

could not be made!

[pnwmom]

10. You mean, who was the last Dem President to have had

a special prosecutor sicced on him, who -- after seven years and with an unlimited budget -- couldn't find anything more to charge him with than obfuscating about adulterous sex?

[sniffa]

18. true

however, if someone wants to spam the board with, "WHO WAS THE LAST DEM TO WIN A PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST" it's only fair to point out the obvious.

[HughMoran]

16. Impeached?

Do you think it was a partisan effort or a reasonable thing to do?

[sniffa]

19. partisan effort

[Renew Deal]

2. You inspire me.

With all your spam. Oh, and Gore won.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

4. I agree Gore won but you just said we got Bush because of Clinton's hard on.

I thought it was because PUKES stole the election

[Renew Deal]

5. Both

Gore would have won big if it weren't for the hard on.

[pnwmom]

14. Clinton had had no reason to think that his sex life would ever become an issue

since the press and the other side had ignored extra-marital activities in every other President who had ever had them -- which is the vast majority of Presidents.

[bluesmail]

33. good one

puts things in perspective

[terisan]

6. I think that is part of it. I am also reminded of many of the Nader voters in 2001 who hated Gore

[lvx35]

9. We should set up a monument for those asshats.

Just the fact that their whole argument was based on the idea that Nobel prize winning Al Gore was the same as George Bush.

[terisan]

22. Let's take comfort that we were right then. We failed to prevent the train wreck but we were on the

right track.

This time we have to figure out how to prevent the train wreck.

[SteppingRazor]

7. Actually, the famous = sellout bit is kinda dated. Very 20th Century.

Most up-and-coming bands now would KILL to get their songs in a Volkswagen commercial, rather than kill to prevent it.

[redqueen]

31. It's not the bands' view, it's the fans'.. and it's very much still around. (nt)

[Catherine Vincent]

8. Freepers and trolls. nt

[book_worm]

11. I thought Al Gore won in 2000

[pnwmom]

15. He got the most votes but he didn't win. We'll never know what would have

happened if he had immediately demanded a FULL recount (not the partial that he requested), or if he didn't finally concede when he did.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

28. He won the election which was then stolen by the Supreme Court nt

nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

12. As a progressive, I don't like Nepotism.

It's was the original reason I thought Bush Jr. would be a bad idea.

[sniffa]

24. But would you feel differently if..

the Clinton administration offered you a post in her newly created Department of Nepotism?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. As long as it wasn't biased and I was qualified...

Sure.

Not as if I thought Clinton cared.

About Nepotism I mean.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

26. It's only nepotism if the person is appointed by a relative, not elected by the people nt

nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

27. Sorry, no.

It's still nepotism.

[Joe the Revelator]

23. Its time to move on to something new

Its not masochistic, misogynistic, or have anything to do with college kids. Its just time to move forward.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

29. That doesn't mean anything to me but willing to hear you out nt

nt

[redqueen]

30. Why is criticism branded as "hate" around here?

Honestly...