Ironically the MSM has given Clinton a victory tonight. She'll lose by 4 or 5 but that is a win now.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

Thanks MSM!

:rofl:

[BootinUp]

1. They want a horse race! Keep it close man. lol.

[still_one]

3. They want to insure that "THEIR" interests are protected /nt

[BootinUp]

4. They don't look forward more than 1 week

stop with the conspiracy nonsense.

[sunonmars]

2. Sorry

apparently Clintons votes are made from 60% of the democrats and 40% independents

Obamas are 47 of Democrats and about 47% independents.

What the hell does that mean. Hillary was top among Democrats. I have no idea

[fightindonkey]

7. Wait, You Want One Candidate To Run Unopposed? Edwards Gets A Pass?

[FrenchieCat]

12. Means that Barack would attract the votes that we need in the GE

the independents.

Remember that the Dem Nominee has the Dems wrapped up.

[fightindonkey]

5. Wait, You Want One Candidate To Run Unopposed? Edwards Gets A Pass?

[KennedyGuy]

6. compared to the blowout they were predicting all day

yep..it is..
how very quickly some forget..
I don't hear a lot of crowing at the moment.:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[fightindonkey]

8. Blowout For Obama?

[ImpeechBush]

9. The media hype about this race was just staggering

The way so many were talking it was going to be a landslide for Obama or at least a decisive victory. I guess it is more about generating excitement and market share than reporting accurately. I suppose I should know that.

[KennedyGuy]

10. amazing how a few hours changes things..

where have these people been since Iowa?
This place has been Obamanation..

[ImpeechBush]

11. Yeah, I know. It's still early but Clinton's got a nearly 5% lead

Be pretty hard for that to turn into anyone's huge victory, and because of all the inflated expectations it might even be somewhat of a defeat for the winner if its Obama and close. Just shows how far off conventional wisdom can get.

[cyberpj]

13. Because Repubs WANT her to. New Hampshire Primary - All Diebold. All the Time.

New Hampshire Primary - All Diebold. All the Time.

New Hampshire Primary - ALL Diebold, ALL the Time
Tuesday, 8 January 2008, 7:55 pm
Opinion: Michael Collins


"1st in the Nation" with Corporate Controlled, Secret Vote Counting
By Nancy Tobi
Democracy for New Hampshire

Introduction.
The more things stay the same, the worse they smell
- By Michael Collins - "Scoop" Independent News - Washington, D.C.

Tomorrow's New Hampshire primary represents a major turning point in the presidential primaries. We've got the rising star of Obama, the stunned Clinton camp, and the populist efforts of the fast moving Democrat, John Edwards, just off a 9% increase in the national polls. At this juncture, the Republican race is less compelling unless you happen to be John McCain or Mitt Romney.

Does Obama's highly favorable corporate media image stack up against reality? Is this the end of Hillary, or at least the beginning of the end? Can Edwards kick in the door with a strong showing and demand coverage? Will Ron Paul embarrass Giuliani by edging him out for fourth?

We'll never know for sure.- Why? It's been nearly eight years since the debacle of Florida and nearly six since the miracle Chambliss win against Cleland. Surely we have reliable, verifiable voting systems in place? It's been almost four years since the nationwide disaster of the 2004 election with irregularities still emerging.

Hasn't all this been fixed? - You'd think so. But, the answer is definitely no. Votes are still taken by voting machines produced by vendors highly sympathetic to the Republican Party. The machines are still off limits to those who want to examine how they operate and observe real vote counting. And good luck if your candidate loses and there's fraud or voting machine problems suspected.

More:
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00057.htm

[sallyseven]

14. What the hell about no die bald don't you get?

They use scanners which are very reliable, and paper ballots.

[cyberpj]

15. Not according to the article:

NH: "1st in the nation" with corporate controlled secret vote counting
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00057.htm
By Nancy Tobi
Democracy for NH Article Link

81% of New Hampshire ballots are counted in secret by a private corporation named Diebold Election Systems (now known as "Premier Election Systems"). The elections run on these machines are programmed by one company, LHS Associates, based in Methuen, MA. We know nothing about the people programming these machines, and we know even less about LHS Associates. We know even less about the secret vote counting software used to tabulate 81% of our ballots. People like to say "but we use paper ballots! They can always be counted by hand!"

But they're not. They're counted by Diebold. Only a candidate can request a hand recount, and most never do so. And a rigged election can easily become a rigged recount, as we learned in Ohio 2004, where two election officials were convicted of rigging their recount. (Is it just a funny coincidence that Diebold spokesman is named Mr. Riggall?)

We need to get the count right on election night. Right now, nobody in New Hampshire, except the programmers at LHS Associates and Diebold Election Systems, knows if we are getting it right or wrong. Our state officials and representatives know this. They learned all about it when computer security specialists Harri Hursti and Bruce Odell testified before the legislative subcommittee on e-voting in September 2007 (Hursti's testimony is shown in this video). Scientific reports about the vulnerabilities and risks with Diebold optical scanners have been available since 2003.

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0801/S00057.htm

[Occam Bandage]

16. So it goes from "MSM GIVES OBAMA WIN" to 'MSM GIVES CLINTON WIN"? Sheesh.