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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:56 PM
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With 86% reporting, Obama is only 2% behind the presumptive front runner!
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 12:00 AM by RiverStone
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With political pundits all but guaranteeing a Clinton blow out in New Hampshire out for the past 6 months, Barack Obama made a surprisingly strong showing on the heels of an Iowa victory tonight!

This gives Obama a lot of momentum heading into Nevada and SC later this month!

:think:****ya see folks, its all in the spinning****:hi:



On edit: spin or not, I kant spel!!!
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:57 PM
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1. You Speak To DU
The MSM speaks to jam packed stadiums...

Good try though...
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:57 PM
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We need two new bumper stickers....
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:58 PM by tabatha
Yes, we can.

No hope is false.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:57 PM
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2. Except we're not doing the spinning
So that theory may or may not mean anything.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:57 PM
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3. You are clearly spinning.
We Hillary supporters see the battle ahead. I know that we have not won this thing.
Obama supporters still think that Obama has this thing locked up.
His "momentum" will be stalled.
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:10 AM
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19. Actually, the current "spin"...
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 12:14 AM by regnaD kciN
...is that HRC's win restores the "status-quo" that anointed her as the "inevitable" nominee, and writes-off Obama as a "flash-in-the-pan" who can be consigned to also-ran status.

We shall see if further events bear that out.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:58 PM
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4. Yep, absolutely
All it takes is to roll out a quivering voice and then when the media plays it, per your demand, act as if they're attacking you.

I guess Bill really does know women, I'll say that.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:58 PM
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5. Better than that?
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 11:59 PM by Patsy Stone
They each go away with the same number of delegates. Thus, in the race to Denver, it's a draw.

Meaning most of their hot air about who won and who lost and what will these people do, and what will those people do is just a lot of wasted cable airtime.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:05 AM
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14. Oh really? Is that why Iowa was such a huge blowout for Obama,,,,,
....who won one more delegate than Clinton? Yeah, right.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:14 AM
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21. Alright, I'll try again
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 12:14 AM by Patsy Stone
First, this OP had nothing to do with Iowa. Apparently, you have a chip on your shoulder that I am not aware of.

I think you read my post and assumed it meant I had a preference one way or the other. My point, since you missed it, is that what matters is the delegates, no matter the individual votes in any state, except as they relate to distribution of delegates.

No matter what the media is spinning, the fact remains that the two are separated by one delegate, and the race is far from over.

Maybe I misunderstood you. Or, are you just naturally rude?
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:25 AM
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22. Yes, it IS about the delegates, which is what I said about Iowa....
But the media and the pundits and many posters here, all proclaimed that Obama "blew away" Hillary in Iowa.

I posted a number of times that Iowa was a one delegate lead by Obama over Hillary and my posts were ignored as the posters here went with the pundits and actually suggested that Hillary drop out after the "blowout in Iowa".

I don't know if you can read my journal but you are welcome to do so where you will see what I just posted.
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:34 PM
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24. Okay, then
we agree. Peace out, yo.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-08-08 11:59 PM
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6. We lost. It was close, but we lost. Let's move on.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:08 AM
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17. Give me an hour or two to be pissed off...
If I'm still whining in the a.m. - spank me! :spank:

Move on we shall!

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:00 AM
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7. Spinning like Obama went into election day with a 14% lead and loses to Hillary.
You mean that type of spinning?
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:02 AM
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10. Wonder why the media worked so hard to emphazize...
Such a hug theoretical Obama lead?

Only to have it swing 14-17 points overnight?

Just wondering....
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:04 AM
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11. Why don't you ask them.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:05 AM
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15. I doubt I'd get a straight answer...n/t
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:05 AM
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13. it is so funny, you are putting your trust into something that was 100% wrong.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:07 AM
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16. And what did I put my trust in?
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:01 AM
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8. Yeah, that's right, but....
....expectations is the key word. Obama was supposed to blow out Clinton. Every frigging pundit and pollster on the planet said so.

Momentum is directly proportional to how a candidate met his/her prior expectations. In this case, Obama - and the press, and the pundits, and the pollsters were all fooled - by the women in New Hampshire.

You know, the ones who bake cookies and iron shirts - who all came back to Hillary.
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RiverStone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:04 AM
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12. But....
Every frigging pundit and pollster on the planet said that Obama would get buried in NH for the past 6 months (minus the last week).

Where's that story?
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:02 AM
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9. all in the spin
~16,000 Iowa voters change politics as we know it
~6,000 NH voters change everything about this race.

Going to be a year of change for sure.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:10 AM
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18. But, see, NOT after Iowa.
Now you can TRY and go back to before Iowa...but nobody else will.

Why even after the early returns began dribbling in, one of you assured us that these were the rural old fogies so we should not be surprised when the returns from the cities blew us away with the Joy of Obama.

But we weren't blown away. And either all the Dems went for Hillary or not all the Independents went for Obama and McCain. Whichever.

You didn't meet your new expectations. Just like with the stock market, it doesn't help to make a tidy profit of ten cents if the market expected eleven cents. The stock will drop.

The race isn't over. But now it's a race and not a juggernaut. Not a "movement" bringing the new messiah to his promised land at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

It's better that way.

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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:13 AM
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20. Interesting...
Although it's too little, too late to change the outcome of tonight's vote, a 2-point margin makes this somewhat less significant than a HRC win by 5% or 6%.

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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:11 PM
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23. Just curious, was Diebold the counter in New Hampshire?
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