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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:53 AM
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does it matter
that hillary barely won? by 2%. or is a win a win?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:54 AM
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1. Hillary crushed the perceptions game and showed power with women voters
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:57 AM
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6. yes but
months ago she was the one who had a 30-40% lead here. so, really, it was only the resent polls she beat.
and you run a dangerous game to claim the woman vote for hillary. it's foolish to claim any voting block so early.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:02 AM
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11. other folks would replace 'women' with 'white'
Is that fair, too?

Anyway, I'm still tripping over your coded post elsewhere



12. I'm a man and have been a Hillary supporter for decades
Edited on Tue Jan-08-08 10:52 PM by billbuckhead

Obama is just a big talker. An empty suit with a big smile and a lot of hot air crafted to a preachers cadence.

It's long past time for woman president and Hillary has earned this for being in the trenches for women for 30+ years. Hillary got her scholarships before affirmative action.


Are you saying that Hillary Clinton is against them? Seriously?

I still don't know what to say......... I could probably start with Hillary not passing the bar in Washington DC, but passing it in Arkansas; and that Obama was not a Bush style legacy baby, but earned his magna cum laude diploma from Harvard, as well as his position on the Harvard Law Review.

I could start with a lot of things, but I wonder if it would be wasted breath, because I could also start with stories of certain people who think that every black doctor is an affirmative action case, and have found a 'safe' means of spreading their discomfort with the abilities of blacks -- the inferiority of blacks -- through invoking affirmative action.

Are you one of them?
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billbuckhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:22 AM
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13. What's wrong with white?
The Obama people can't have it both ways. America can't simultaneously now be colorblind and simultaneously Obama be the great black hope.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:55 AM
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2. Yes, it matters. A lot.
You have no idea how much it matters.
I wish I could explain.
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:55 AM
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3. If ABC's site is correct, it doesn't matter.
Since both Senator Clinton and Senator Obama will each receive 9 delegates.

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=NH
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:59 AM
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8. cnn says
the same thing. it seems only a moral victory.
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Captain Angry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:00 AM
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9. It's a long process.
At some point, a candidate will begin to resonate more than others do, and they'll pull ahead.

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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:55 AM
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4. It seemed to matter when Hillary came 600 or so votes behind Edwards in Iowa...nt
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:56 AM
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5. in-state delegates or votes? 200,000 voted Dem, right?
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mathewsleep Donating Member (824 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 12:58 AM
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7. i never said
edwards spanked her in iowa. he didn't.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:00 AM
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10. very much so. both have struck now. Obama by 9
so his was decisive. We can see that just a few more things swinging the other direction can easily show us a mini streak of Obama wins.

We should feel excited about our candidates.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:05 AM
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12. Psychologically, it's huge
...I'm kind of glad too - I want our candidate to be seasoned under fire - no runaway nominations this year.
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