Obama came in much higher than Iowa polls..was that vote rigged too?

[KennedyGuy]

Final Results - - 37.5 29.4 29.7 0.9 2.1 Obama +7.8

RCP Average 12/26 - 01/02 - 30.8 29.2 26.0 5.4 5.2 Obama +1.6

InsiderAdvantage 01/02 - 01/02 415 LV 34 32 33 -- -- Obama +1.0

American Res. Group 12/31 - 01/02 600 LV 25 34 21 8 6 Clinton +9.0

Reuters/CSpan/Zogby 12/30 - 01/02 905 LV 31 24 27 5 7 Obama +4.0

Strategic Vision (R) 12/28 - 12/30 600 LV 32 27 29 5 2 Obama +3.0

Des Moines Register 12/27 - 12/30 800 LV 32 25 24 4 6 Obama +7.0

CNN 12/26 - 12/30 482 LV 31 33 22 5 5 Clinton +2.0


Really..he came in higher than predicted...was that rigged too?
Or is it just the Hillary results that are disturbing some of you..

[Colobo]

1. Obama's victory in Iowa was a fluke.

That's what I'm starting to think.

[cmaff05]

3. LOL

Weren't you the one spamming these forums yesterday with posts like "Obama on: Economy", "Obama on: Culture", etc.

I think the Obama campaign needs fairweather supporters like you.

[Joe the Revelator]

6. You're making me sick

You really are. If all it took was ONE loss to shake your support of Obama, then by all means, pout about it, but if you really believed in him as much as you would have us believe yesterday, then suck it up, and keep moving forward.

[Colobo]

8. You don't understand, Wolsh...

You don't understand what I'm feeling... don't judge me, man...

[Joe the Revelator]

10. Unless you're drunk out of your mind, you're acting like a dope

Nothing points to anything being over, except for the caucus in Iowa and the primary in New Hampshire. Hell, you don't even see the Edwards people having the pity party that you're throwing yourself tonight, and their candidate REALLY underperformed.

[Colobo]

11. You don't understand...

I apologize for what I have posted lately... but it's tough...

[Joe the Revelator]

12. Dude, I've been through more losing election days then I can remember

It is tough, but in the primaries, it doesn't mean you abandon all hope and make a fool of yourself after losing one state.

There was no way he was going to win 'em all.

[KennedyGuy]

17. I do understand..I felt the same way the other night..

Its just one contest..It is good to have hope for your candidate..this process will make the ultimate winner much stronger.
you will feel better tomorrow...and you'll be ready to continue the fight.
many of us are on different sides with candidates..but we are also human.
I respect your feelings..
but It WILL be OK.

[BeyondGeography]

20. Suck it up, Katz

We still have the best candidate. The numbers show women made a last-ditch stand for Hilly tonight. It's a one-off. We'll be OK.

I promise.

[1corona4u]

14. Go take a midol.

Put your suit of armor on, and go forward.

[Colobo]

16. Thanks for your "support"

I'll just take a dose of reality daily from now on.

[1corona4u]

19. Katz, you're blowing this out of porportion....

really, you are.

[TwilightZone]

9. Are you serious?

Obama's win in Iowa is not in question. He won convincingly.

All NH did was make this thing a race again. In reality, it was always a race, and Super Tuesday is likely going to decide it.

[VarnettaTuckpocket]

15. There's another thread speculating that Diebold stole it for Hillary

This thread is just a tongue-in-cheek response to that.

[TwilightZone]

21. Understood, but my response was to Katz, not the OP.

Katz has been one of the strongest Obama supporters on DU for some time now. I was just surprised at Katz's response to the OP as it seemed rather...uncharacteristic.

[FrenchieCat]

13. Katz, what are you doing?

Is this really you?

I am very disappointed in your attitude.

If you support Obama, step away from the computer! Please.

[Colobo]

18. I will go to bed now. I've never felt what I'm feeling tonight.

It's terrible... it's such a dissapointment... a fear of having my hopes crushed...

[FrenchieCat]

26. This has got to be your first primaries.....

YOu got to hang in tough. We need you! Obama needs you! and We need Obama!

We've got too much longer to go. IT really was a small victory that she got.......it's the PR that's she gained.

You are giving Obama negative PR at the moment. He doesn't need it!

[quinnox]

23. I think you are overreacting

I can understand feeling bad about Obama's loss, but Obama is very much still in the race. Obama can still win this contest, and I say that as a strong Hillary supporter.

It would be absurd to count Obama out at this point.

[babylonsister]

25. Never never ever. I think not. Have some faith! nt

[MadBadger]

2. Your an idiot

And I'm not even saying this was rigged. But the caucuses are public and everyone can see how much people everyone else has...dumbass.

[Clintonista2]

Unless you go to each individual precinct, and personally record each result as it happens

there would be no way to know.

[MadBadger]

5. The other supporters of other candidates could tell if something was fishy.

[KennedyGuy]

7. hey..fuck off then

I'm not talking to you.
Please dont get pissy with me.

[quinnox]

4. lol, why even pay attention to that

There will always be sore losers who try to cast doubt if their candidate doesn't win or if they just plain hate Hillary, its best to just ignore that nonsense. Might as well debate the moon is made of cheese, thats how seriously it should be taken.

[2rth2pwr]

22. It was the Clinton machine getting people used to the discrepancies

The totals from each caucus are reported electronically, so at the homes they saw the real result
but on the other end the hacked result was all that was seen.

[Azathoth]

24. Wrong. The trend was clearly in Obama's favor, and he pulled ahead a little more than expected

by maybe 3-4 points. The polls (with the exception of the ARG) were basically accurate in Iowa.

What happened in NH tonight is...a lot different. And a lot more suspicious.

[babylonsister]

27. Thank you. Sigh. And ugh. Is it fixable, anywhere? nt

[Azathoth]

28. Sadly, I have no idea n/t