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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:51 AM
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Goddammit.
You may return to your gloating now.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:58 AM
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1. no gloating here. Feels like watching a train wreck in slo-mo.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:01 AM by peacebird
Another election where polls and exit polls don't match outcomes. Has the population just taken to lying to pollsters en-masse? Or has diebold started to work its magic....

There was a post earlier that tallied the results by polls with diebold and polls without diebold. The differences were stunning....
edit to add link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4008396
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:01 AM
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2. I'm not drinking the koolaid, friend. The results matched exit polling.
Yankees, especially New Hampshire Yankees, are fickle things. When you have facts rather than idle speculation to back up your assertion, I'll listen. Until then, I'll simply grouse about the lesser of the two mediocrities didn't win.
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:20 AM
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6. The facts at the link I supplied above, plus at BradBlog are all I have. It is enough to
cause me to worry about the fact that diebolds easily hackable systems are still playing a major role in our election process. The difference between the results in polls without diebold (results apparently matched expectations) and those with diebold (large upticks for Hillary over Obama) made me nervous.

I wish I could feel some confidence that our votes are honestly tabulated and that voting actually mattered. It feels more and more like a Kabuki charade with each passing year.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:01 AM
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3. Perhaps these voters weren't bullied to switch sides like in Iowa. Spin away for the ABC crowd.
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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:17 AM
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5. You are saying that in Iowa they were forced to vote for Obama? LOL, eom
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:05 AM
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4. Well, Hillary has been spending time with Rupert Murdoch. Bill's been hanging with Bush Sr. n/t
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 08:05 AM by IanDB1
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 08:22 AM
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7. Eh -this is why Edwards hitched his wagon to Obama
Now he can claim that votes for change beat Hillary and he can get to So.Carolina and beyond.
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