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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:53 AM
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What does this phrase from Hillary's victory speech last night mean:
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 10:53 AM by hedgehog
" the wisdom to end the war in Iraq the right way" ?
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:54 AM
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1. It means....
not just pulling the troops out, without a political solution, and not just leaving chaos behind. In other words, not just walking away.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:58 AM
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7. yes, she is concerned with people such as translators and others who helped the US who
will be targets of revenge.

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:58 AM
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8. As opposed to Obama's:
"We will end this war in Iraq. We will bring our troops home. We will finish the job -- we will finish the job against Al Qaida in Afghanistan. '



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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:29 AM
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18. Could not have written it better and a good example of this is
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:32 AM by BenDavid
the belief by many (that care not to know the truth) that Clinton invaded Somalia ( bush the smarter did that on dec 9,1992 ) and packed up and left after the 18 deaths.(oct.12.93) Truth is the first american killed in somalia (1/7/93) was before clinton took office on 1/20/93. Truth is bush the smarter sent troops into somalia unprepared and without heavy armor and naval firepower....
Clinton,Mar 25,94 American troops completed their withdrawal from Somalia.

Yes withdrawal from Iraq must be done right and as the surge was to do create a political solution but that has not been achieved yet.

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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:54 AM
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2. 100 Years War Part II?
Means we get out when the corporations say it's right?
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:55 AM
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3. Whatever the listener wants to read into it.
That's the beauty of vague statements. :)
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:00 AM
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12. ding! ding! ding! nt
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:55 AM
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4. delete
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 10:55 AM by redqueen
dupe
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:57 AM
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5. What it says
There's a right way and a wrong way to do anything. Right is not perfect - just the best option out of many bad choices in this case.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:59 AM
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10. yes, you hit it----choosing amongst bad choices
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:57 AM
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6. It means (to me) not ending the war at all
that whole 'right way' phrase is neocon speak.

The TRUTH is that is should never have been started in the first place, and so we should get the hell out of there and let those people begin to rebuild their lives that we shattered, and continue to shatter, by our presence.
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:03 AM
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14. You can't just pull out troops on a moments notice
Remember what happened in Vietnam when we pulled out?

I want to see Blackwater and other groups like that out of Iraq immediately. I want the millions/billions dollar contracts to American corps to stop immediately. At the same time, I don't want to cause even more deaths to Iraqis because we didn't take care of the people who helped us. Those who are most at risk should be offered a chance to leave.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:04 AM
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15. because of the arrogance and cruelty employed by our politicians and miliitary, our presence there
only makes things worse, not better. The longer we stay, the more war crimes we commit, and the worse the situation becomes. It's just that simple.

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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:29 AM
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17. You mean we should have stayed longer in viet nam?
how much longer?
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midlife_mo_Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:45 AM
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22. I mean we should have pulled out EARLIER - with a better plan
and concern for those we left behind.
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mrdemocrat78 Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 10:58 AM
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9. it was a slap at obama
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:00 AM
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11. During the last debate she gave a lot of details of what needs to be thought about--I have
not heard the same detail coming from Obama.
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:01 AM
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13. Who knows?
There will not -- in the forseeable future -- be a time when we can leave Iraq without dire consequences. If we wait for that, it'll make the Vietnam Decade look like the invasion of Grenada in duration.

There is no right way to get out, just as there was no right way to get in.



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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:06 AM
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16. the AIPAC way
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:16 AM by arewenotdemo
Chalabi will need to be resuscitated, for starters.

Elliot Abrams as American ambassador is a no-brainer.

And personal security for those two fine public servants...maybe only 125,000 American troops/mercs.

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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:39 AM
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21. Gotta link for that info or
are you speaking out of your ass.
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:55 AM
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23. she's STILL blaming Iraqis for their situation
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 11:58 AM by arewenotdemo
which, IMO, is the most vile political point to be made in America today.

She's soaked in Iraqi blood and has absolutely no remorse.

Sunday, February 20, 2005
HILLARY JOINS NEO-CON WAR IN IRAQ

Hillary Clinton, who hopes to become president, is on the Sunday morning talk shows saying that our troops might be in Iraq for some time to come. "We've been in Korea for 50 years," she said. "We are still in Okinawa," she told the TV cameras. Right wing Sen Lindsay Graham (R-SC), sitting next to Hillary during the interview on Faze the Nation, chimed in that even though "Sen Clinton and I are on different ends of the political spectrum, we both agree that our troops will be here for a long time."


http://space4peace.blogspot.com/2005/02/hillary-joins-neo-con-war-in-iraq.html
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:40 PM
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24. I asked for a llink regarding
Aipac, Chalabi and all the other nonsense you spewed. Instead, you spewed some more. Just what I suspected.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:30 AM
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19. no one will really know because
it`s another year before they take office,then a few more months to review the best options and implement the plan.
what needs to be done this year is to force bush to start removing the troops.

this country can not afford another 100 billion+ for the war.

should`t the democrats be talking about that "small" problem everyone in the country will be facing?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 11:31 AM
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20. What did "stay the course" in 2003 mean??
Support the war until you get ready to run for President.
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