Your image of John Edwards is

[Colobo]

Poll question: Your image of John Edwards is

Tell us.

[Colobo]

1. Vote.

[SaveElmer]

2. Decidedly negative...nt

[Colobo]

6. I know, Elmer.

[RufusTFirefly]

8. I don't trust his hair. On the other hand, I just loved how Clinton railed against Big Pharma

Now there's a candidate I can believe in!
:sarcasm:

[itsrobert]

10. Elmer, you still here?

Still trying to pull the Democrats over to the dark side?

[LSK]

31. how dare someone speak up for the middle class and the poor

The horrors!

:sarcasm:

[RufusTFirefly]

33. They're nothing but "special interests"

:sarcasm:

[SaveElmer]

35. Actions speak louder than words...

His actions don't back up his words...at least as his supporters understand them...

[LSK]

40. these actions?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3898749

I guess 20 years of "ambulance chasing" do not count but 6 years in a Republican controlled congress do.

:shrug:

[SaveElmer]

41. I've never once criticized Edwards work as a trial lawyer...

I was referring to his moderate/conservative record in the Senate...which his supporters are either oblivious too or don't care about...and which he is now trying to run away from as fast as he can...

I am also referring to his ridiculous reason for making half a mil working at a hedge fund which does the very thing he now rails against...using possibly the lamest excuse I have ever heard...that he did it to learn the relationship between hedge funds and poverty...

In 1998 he made the same appeal in his Senate race and didn't take PAC money...yet it did not stop him from co-sponsoring the IWR, voting for the China Trade deal, oppose universal health care, for Yucca mountain wast disposal, from refusing to speak out against state right to work laws (including his own)...among many other votes that I think most of his progressive supporters would not look kindly on...

I know the hypocrisy will wash over his supporters and will come back with the correct observation that Hillary voted for some of these too (although she has consistently voted against Yucca Mountain, has always supported universal health care, and opposed right to work laws)...

In any case, it isn't Hillary running as the angry populist progressive...the point is...Edwards record as a legislator and candidate in 2004 do not match his rhetoric now...

[LSK]

42. ok the hedge funds

Why is his "excuse" lame? Wouldn't you want to learn how big money works if you are concerned about poverty? I dont know what you do for a living, but in my job when I try to solve problems, I try to analyze all sides of the problem to solve it.

Please tell me how you would address poverty in America without learning about where the money goes to???

[SaveElmer]

44. So if a police detective wanted to learn about the criminal mind...

He should go commit a crime?

Edwards is railing against corporations for doing the exact thing the corporation he worked for...and made a significant amount of money from...did!

[LSK]

45. why is this hard to understand?

The money is going to Wall Street. Why ignore that? Do you want the next President to be a clueless idiot about how the economy works???

Why is this such a hard concept???

[Clarkansas]

3. I think he is great! eom

[NightHawk63]

4. He's my guy!!

[City Lights]

5. I have a positive image of both Edwards and Obama. eom

[penguin7]

7. How come DUers paint Ron Paul a racist for

some magazine articles he did not even write decades ago, and yet forgive John Edwards for his whole career.

This is not meant to be an endorsement of Ron Paul but there is some major hypocrisy here.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

9. There's a lot more to Ron Paul, than those magazine articles

[RufusTFirefly]

12. Huh?

What are you alleging about Edwards? Or are you just throwing a rhetorical stink bomb?

As for Paul, the "some magazine articles" you refer to were in his own newsletter.
If you are suggesting that Paul isn't even accountable for his own newsletter then that speaks volumes about his ability to lead.

[penguin7]

24. Like Edwards sponsoring the Iraq war

Or his work and investment at Fortress. Or his votes in the Senate.

[RufusTFirefly]

28. Oh, so that means Paul DOESN'T espouse racist ideas?

I'm not sure of your point, unless of course you're providing a fallacious argument. If that's the case, I understand you perfectly.

[asdjrocky]

36. Hit and run?

Just like always, you make me sick. If my daughter acted like you do on DU, I would be embarrassed.

[asdjrocky]

37. This is what you posted just yesterday-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4004548&mesg_id=4004548

And good luck to you with Ron Paul.

[penguin7]

43. I am voting for Kucinich

I think Ron Paul has some integrity which Edwards lacks however.

[asdjrocky]

47. You're so funny....

Ron Paul... and integrity in the same sentence.

[peacetalksforall]

14. 'his whole career'? - lawyer and Senator? I admire his career as a

lawyer. He was on the good side of lawyering.

[penguin7]

27. Edwards sure was on the good side of lawyering,

he made himself millions of dollars.

I see no good whatsoever to this side of lawyering. If the idea is help the victims, the lawyers take and the court costs are exorbitant. If the idea is to punish corporations, let us have clear laws and criminal prosecution.

The interests of lawyers and the people are not aligned.

[RufusTFirefly]

30. "The interests of lawyers and the people are not aligned."

BWAHAHAHA!!!!

Thank you. At least we know where you're coming from!

Your concern is noted.

[peacetalksforall]

34. Isn't part of the corporation war against the citizens a mix?

A blatant breaking of the law.
Finding a loophole and exploiting it.
Creating favorable law (for them) with the help of politicians.
Operating from outside the U.S. to avoid U.S. laws.

I'm not sure how he charged or how he got paid. If it's true that he won a lot of cases, I would think that the costs to the person bringing the lawsuit would come out of the court award - would that be that bad?

I'm not sure if as a Senator he ever voted for anything that helped the corporations against the citizens, but that would seem so contradictatory and something that would prevent him from even running for office.

But, I'm ignorant of the details.

I guess it is more honorable to be a court paid defender of indigents, but there have to be some fine minds fighting at the level of the corporation, also.

I like good lawyers. Good = honest. I'm for reform in the legal world - but that follows the way evidence is handled and manipulations between judges and lawyers, lawyers and lawyers.

Sometimes I rely on my built in credibility meter. He and his wife get some high readings with me. But, I can't get over his Iraq vote. I'm having great difficulty forgiving anyone who voted for it, even though he said he wouldn't do it if he had it to do over again. One point that helps me - he is obviously not being supported by the DLC (this time around).

But you're absolutely right about clear laws and criminal prosecution and let's add resort-prisons for wealthy convicts. I'm even for mandatory sentencing - a mandatory year for each million and one half that they swindle from the little people.

[asdjrocky]

39. Here's what you posted yesterday-

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4004548&mesg_id=4004548

We know what you are.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

11. Very positive

[cloudythescribbler]

13. Don't mean to be snarky, but I think it would have been better if ...

there were more categories, forming a kind of spectrum from Strongly Negative, Weak neg, neutral, pos, Strong Pos. Me -- i would be a weak pos -- I'd vote for Edwards as the nominee, but my choices are (1) Obama, (2) Edwards and (3) HRC of the top three Dems.

Of course, Kucinich as US president would be awful nice, but so would a lot of other things ...

[Occam Bandage]

15. Negative in comparison to every other Democrat. Positive in comparison to Republicans/Indies.

[Colobo]

16. Why?

[Occam Bandage]

19. Discussing it will, if recent history is any indication, hijack the thread.

Some Edwards supporters believe discussing the negative aspects of their guy's record, career, and character are all off-limits.

[Armstead]

17. Positive and continues to get more positive

Like many others, I initially had my doubts about his sincerity and perceived lack of consistency.

But after deciding he most closely represents my own priorities, my initially lukewarm support became enthusiasm the more I saw of him and learned of him.

I still believe that if he could get the Democratic Party behind him, he'd be the best candidate and the most potentially meaningful president of the current crop.

[laureloak]

18. What is your point? To drive away support for Obama?

[midnight]

20. Positive!!!! John is showing you what a tough opponent he is by

campaigning without the benefit of the same coverage Hillary, and Obama are receiving. Plus he is demonstrating how economically responsible with fewer resources. Very impressed Mr. Edwards. Keep up the great Job.....

[robcon]

21. He's fine, but he's my third choice, after Clinton and Obama.

n/t

[Little Star]

22. Loved him since 2004. supported him up until he did his tag

team/junk yard dog bit in Iowa. No care for him so much any more.

[tritsofme]

23. Very negative

He is my second to last choice for the nomination.

Now that he has been throughly spanked in NH, and really doesn't have a chance to win any other state, I hope he gets back to his day job soon.

[youthere]

25. Mostly positive. There are some things I don't like..but I have that with all the candidates.

[HughMoran]

26. I wish he was Elizabeth

I love her, I'm not as enthralled with John, but I would rally for Elizabeth any day of the seek.

[PresidentObama]

29. The same as it's been since 2003, extremely positive.

[krabigirl]

32. Positive

[Clark2008]

38. Negative.

He's a snake; a phony populist.

I agree with everything he says, but I don't trust that he means it because of the way he ACTED for so many years.

[readmoreoften]

46. Cool. Edwards has the most positives and least negatives. /nt