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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:15 PM
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Bradley Affect scares southern black voters
I have read articles where southern black politicians are telling their constituents to not get their hopes up, to stick with the Clintons. Repeating this Bradley Affect stuff seems to me to feed into that fear.

Iowa Under 30: 23%
NH Under 30: 18%

Republicans. 57% of the vote was men. They wanted to make sure Romney didn't win.

And whatever happened with women, and I don't think they were rejecting Obama on race.

It's time to focus on Obama's accomplishments and leadership qualities in Illinois.

He did better in NH than anybody ever thought he would a week ago. The media is still spinning you if you think otherwise.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:31 PM
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1. its scary. nt.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:36 PM
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2. Obama needs to focus on the issues with more details. He is very much a contender.
Side rant.

Geeze, I wish the would include Obama in spell check to be correctly spelled.

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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 01:51 PM
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3. waitaminute: *ARE* those black pols invoking fear to keep votes for the Clintons?
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 01:53 PM by Anouka
I agree with you about moving forward, but we can't move forward without dealing with something, here:

ARE those southern black politicians telling black voters not to bother because 'whites will never vote for a black man and NH proves it'... so keep voting for the Clintons?

that sounds odd, nasty, counterproductive, unAmerican and racist.

that's plantation talk.

how do you free someone's mind from plantation talk?

If those southern black politicians are really doing that, all they're telling blacks -- all they're reinforcing for blacks -- is that 'the system is rigged against you, so you have to trust the Great White Father'.

We can't move forward, without finding out why southern black politicians are more interested in getting blacks to remain on the Great White Father plantation.... than in supporting the candidates of their choice, even if it is the Clintons (which is different) but also if it is Obama (or Edwards or whomever).

Why are the Clintons presented as the Great White Father?


It's not ok if they're the beneficiaries of 'the system is rigged against black people, therefore only white people can help us we cannot help ourselves'.

The Clintons are not supporting this line of attack, are they?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:13 PM
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4. Here's quotes
State Rep. Alvin A. Holmes and Joe L. Reed, who is associate executive secretary of the Alabama Education Association, said he believes white Americans aren't ready for a black man to be president.

"He's exceptionally well-qualified," Holmes, D-Montgomery, said of the Ivy League-educated Obama. "But he's not going to get elected because of racism in America."

...

"Most of the Democratic candidates are acceptable," said Reed, who chairs an influential group of black party members, the Alabama Democratic Conference, which has come out for Clinton. "But they also have to be electable."

Clinton will beat any of the announced GOP contenders, he said.

"We cannot lose sight that we have to beat the Republicans," said Reed, who has close ties to Bill and Hillary Clinton.

http://www.leftinalabama.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=731
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:17 PM
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5. I think there was also a South Carolina legislator who's been saying this also
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:33 PM
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6. House negros. I am appalled. Good lord.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:34 PM by Anouka
Thank you for the links.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:38 PM
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7. I'm white
I would just say that it's very sad. Although I know women have had to deal with the same kinds of doubts along the way as well.
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Anouka Donating Member (712 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-10-08 03:51 AM
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9. I'm black. I wonder why your thread hasn't received play.
This is troubling to me on many levels.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:06 PM
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8. I was so mad last night when MSNBC started spinning this to compensate
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 03:06 PM by wlucinda
for their own mistake.

The registered Dem numbers in the polls showed a close race between Hillary and Obama. The pollsters and MSM put all their emphasis on the indy voters which did poll higher for Obama, but didn't turnout. NH DID vote for Obama in large numbers. There is no Bradley effect in play.
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