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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:31 PM
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Exit polling is the weak link and the easiest to rig.
There is little to no standards in exit polling, the answers are compiled verbally, the people marking the clipboards can mark for any candidate they want without scrutiny.

For example, paid workers for candidate A collect exit polling data by infiltrating groups that are hired to do the work. They can get jobs as supervisors of precincts or as actual collectors of data.

They then go out and with careful analysis are instructed exactly how many votes for each candidate are needed to match desired results. Too many responses for candidate B? Easy, just use your eraser.

Where is the oversight?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:33 PM
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1. LOL!!
There is no end to the insanity today!

Poor sports all around!

Oh. My. Fucking. God.

Question:

How did they coordinate to achieve 39-37 on both actual and exit polls then?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:40 PM
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3. Two parts of the same operation
no matter what the polls said before people voted ,they can have control of both variables.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:43 PM
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4. You believe that?
You think that the independent groups that do exit polling are somehow colluding with just one campaign?

For what possible gain?

There is no logic in your argument - argument for argument's sake is a fools errand.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:49 PM
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5. You miss the beauty of it. These so called independent
groups are easily infiltrated with operatives from Campaign A's team.

Those positions pay close to minimum wage or are volunteers, very little competition to place advocates in the right places.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:50 PM
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8. and all of these minimum wage infiltrators can be trusted not to talk?
interesting.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:54 PM
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12. They may be executives making 6 figures who take these jobs for a day. nt
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:55 PM
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13. OK, I see where this is going
Good luck! :hi:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:52 PM
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9. Reminds me of this movie!
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:35 PM
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2. I despise exit polling -- serves no purpose.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:49 PM
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6. Sure. The cheaters rigged the machines and the exit polls...
but didn't think to send out a couple of bogus pre-election polls ahead of time to quell suspicion. How can people so nefariously smart also be so stupid?
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:53 PM
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10. It was under control until the "wave"
there was a day or 2 that got out of their control.
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ThePhilosopher04 Donating Member (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:00 PM
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16. NO...
the vote can be rigged, and the exit polls are adjusted to reflect the vote count. Doesn't have to be fraud as far the exit polls are concerned. They just assume there is no fraud and adjust to make the numbers fit. The pre-election polls are taken independently and would require massive fraud to coordinate.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:50 PM
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7. No, exit polling is the control on elections
From what I gather, it was correct.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:54 PM
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11. This is getting boring. Exit polling can be rigged? Sure. Anything can be rigged.....
...but exit polling can indicate suspicions of election rigging and is taken very seriously by voters. Seriously enough to cause uprisings.

The Ukraine - 2004. Kenya - just a week ago or so.

But not here in this country. We Americans don't really give a shit if our votes don't count or are not counted...2000....2004....

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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:57 PM
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14. Obamaniacs sure do love sour grapes
Breakfast, Lunch, and Dinner!
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:59 PM
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15. Your response is exactly why Kerry did not fight back. nt
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:00 PM
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17. Apples and oranges for dessert, too!
As there is zero correlation between anything in 2004 and the primaries of 2008.
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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:03 PM
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18. Kerry demurred because he would be accused of "sour grapes". nt
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:35 PM
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19. Are you on something?
The difference is that there was amble evidence of irregularities on `04 Ohio. There is absolutely nothing of the sort here other than some very grumpy Obama supporters.
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