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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:37 PM
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Obama's Co-Chairman Jesse Jackson Jr says Hillary teared up because of her appearance...
Maybe Obama should make Jackson his spokesperson...



Here's one key quote:

...there were tears that melted the Granite State. And those are tears that Mrs. Clinton cried on that day, clearly moved voters. She somehow connected with those voters.

But those tears also have to be analyzed. They have to be looked at very, very carefully in light of Katrina, in light of other things that Mrs. Clinton did not cry for, particularly as we head to South Carolina where 45% of African-Americans who participate in the Democratic contest, and they see real hope in Barack Obama.


And:

We saw something very clever in the last week of this campaign coming out of Iowa, going into New Hampshire, we saw a sensitivity factor. Something that Mrs. Clinton has not been able to do with voters that she tried in New Hampshire.

Not in response to voters -- not in response to Katrina, not in response to other issues that have devastated the American people, the war in Iraq, we saw tears in response to her appearance. So her appearance brought her to tears, but not hurricane Katrina.


Asked if he was suggesting that The Tears were faked, Jackson said: "I wouldn't say that."

So it appears that Jackson's point is that Hillary hasn't proven able to show the same level of emotion about the problems facing our country that she did in response to a question about her looks.


http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/obama_campaign_cochair_questions_hillarys_tears.php
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:39 PM
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1. Yeah, we're gonna get a lot of "change" from these darlings.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:45 PM
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9. You just need more "hope" lol. nt
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:41 PM
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2. It's no wonder that Jackson's mother is supporting Senator Clinton:
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:43 PM by Freddie Stubbs
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:43 PM
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4. Silly you.
You have the wrong Jesse Jackson.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:48 PM
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12. That's why I asked about the mistress
People can be so quick with the criticism.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:53 PM
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14. Yep.
Then they edit it.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:58 PM
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19. I just noticed that
and still chose to wade in the mud.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:43 PM
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5. What mistress?
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:54 PM
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15. My mistake. I meant his father's mistress
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:12 PM
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27. or did they share?
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 04:27 PM
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35. You should write a book--Here's the title:
"Bad Things About Democrats"--by F. Stubbs
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:41 PM
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3. It would be a good time for him to STFU
He shouldn't bring all this up again, and he certainly shouldn't be doing it the day after a win by her.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:44 PM
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6. If he said this it will hurt his candidate. The media would love the spectacle of
the African American candidate and the female candidate going at each other boxing ring style. Hopefully Obama will restrain Jesse Jackson Jr. or openly disavow his comments.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:44 PM
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7. Thats down right tacky
And I continue to support General Clark ...

I believe this lack of emotion and compassion on Clinton's part is another concoction of some media conglomeration from one side or the other that has been going on for some time. Just because rush limbaugh says it does not make it so.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:45 PM
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8.  TPM nails it:
Asked if he was suggesting that The Tears were faked, Jackson said: "I wouldn't say that."

So it appears that Jackson's point is that Hillary hasn't proven able to show the same level of emotion about the problems facing our country that she did in response to a question about her looks.


It's a strategy.

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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:48 PM
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13. "...employed by an evil witch"
you left that out, thought I would help you out.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:30 PM
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32. Huh? n/t
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 06:49 PM
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36. Playing dumb?
Your suggestion that Hillary is employing a strategy, is dehumanizing. Thanks.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:45 PM
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10. JJJ, show me some pics of Obama crying over Katrina. Neither
of them could have changed Bush's disgusting performance. I am sure both of them were just as appalled as the rest of the world.
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:46 PM
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11. JJJ, show me some pics of Obama crying over Katrina. Neither
of them could have changed Bush's disgusting performance. I am sure both of them were just as appalled as the rest of the world.
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:55 PM
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16. Terrible argument!!!
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 02:56 PM by debatepro
I am a pretty hardcore Obama supporter... and HRC is my least favorite candidate and this is a terrible "argument"... take them (the tears) as genuine and move on... she wasn't crying about the state of the campaign ... she was crying about how passionately she feels about this country and the direction we are going in. Contrived or genuine.

But that rare moment of sympathy -- in contrast to the beating she has taken in recent days -- seemed to then get to her. "It's not easy, and I couldn't do it if I didn't passionately believe it was the right thing to do," Clinton said. Her voice broke, and her eyes appeared to well up with tears. "You know, this is very personal for me. It's not just political. It's not just public. I see what's happening, and we have to reverse it."

FYI: "I see what's happening and we have to reverse it" means the crap that is going on wrong with this country and that include things like Katrina.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:01 PM
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22. What a stupid argument
I know Obama isn't responsible for everything his supporters say, but I hope he puts a stop to such nonsense.

There are many reasons to be for Obama, but Hillary not crying in public over Katrina isn't one of them.
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debatepro Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:07 PM
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24. jjj arg
not obama's...

jjj: But those tears also have to be analyzed. They have to be looked at very, very carefully in light of Katrina, in light of other things that Mrs. Clinton did not cry for...

This is stupid. She is crying for everything that is wrong with this country... look at the quote. This includes things like Katrina...

HRC: I see what's happening, and we have to reverse it.

Its a terrible argument. JJJ is saying look at what she "cried" for but she didn't cry because of Katrina... which we couldn't possibly know... the tear police weren't watching her at this time.

And I think a HRC nomination is the worst thing that could happen to this party (of the available options)... seriously...
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:57 PM
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17. I heard an Obama spokesman saying the same thing today on msnbc.
Absolutely outrageous!:puke:
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:00 PM
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20. Who? Are you sure that wasnt Jackson Jr?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:06 PM
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23. I don't think so.
I had the tv on in the background, and glanced up when I heard it.


Not sure who it was, but unless JJJ lost alot of weight, it wasn't him.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:11 PM
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26. Any idea around when it was? Time wise...Oh and I just saw he lost 50 pounds in 2005
Ive been watching MSNBC since 11 AMish. Ive seen JJJ and Durbin on tv today.


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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:54 PM
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34. I honestly don't know -
Doing paperwork today, I heard it, and glanced up.

Not really paying close attention.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:58 PM
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Jesse is making is doing a disservice to his candidate.
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 03:00 PM by Beacool
"But those tears also have to be analyzed. They have to be looked at very, very carefully in light of Katrina, in light of other things that Mrs. Clinton did not cry for, particularly as we head to South Carolina where 45% of African-Americans who participate in the Democratic contest, and they see real hope in Barack Obama."

Remember when the media went crazy over her cleavage? I do and I remember a pundit on Meet the Press (a reporter from the WSJ) using almost the exact same words questioning her choice of blouse and the need to analyze her motive for wearing it. Do you also remember how people reacted? There were hundreds of messages of protest sent to the WP and most of the political blogs.

Jesse's reaction to a minor moment when Hillary showed some emotion is churlish and petty. Furthermore, she didn't get emotional over a question about her appearance. The woman asked her how SHE felt, how did she do it and then said that to lighten the moment she asked her about her hair. Jesse's take on the question and its response is disingenuous and it will backfire.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:00 PM
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21. You'd think after a day in which they lost...plausibly in part because of this kind of treatment...
That they would take special pains not to continue with it...apparently it hasn't sunk in that this kind of childish criticism is not well received...
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:39 PM
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33. South Carolinians will see these lies for what they are.
SC's are not stupid and for him to boldly say that she was crying because of her looks is a blatant lie. She was not crying and it was not over how she looked. JJJ just came off as good as saying "she's so yesterday". This kinda crap does not support Senator Obama very well. They keep up with this good old boys stuff and they will surely lose this for him. Tone deaf is the only explanation I can come up with.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 02:58 PM
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18. Is he really a congressman?
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:08 PM
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25. since JJ got the congressional seat awhile back by default, he's never made
an impact. He's as lackluster as they come.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:17 PM
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28. " .... so it appears that Jacksons's point ...."
If you're trying to excavate red meat for the choir, you're going to have to do better than that lame extrapolation. Oh, wait. I'm being told that that doesn't matter to them. Carry on.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:23 PM
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29. Now, this one is worse then Edwards'! I was thinking - Giuliani did better
because - while ridiculously bringing 9.11 in the answer, at least squeezed some empathy. But this guy should stop digging.
Obama was smart enough to refrain from comments (without adding monumentally stupid things like other candidates). But he should keep his surrogates in check because it doesn't help him.
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KennedyGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:25 PM
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30. Thats another 100 votes for Hillary..I love it....keep it coming
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 03:27 PM
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31. I think this whole thing is just getting stupider by the second.
(yes, I know that's not proper verbiage/grammar)


I just can't believe all the shit, because Hillary won by 2 fucking points. BIG DEAL. Jesus Christ!!!!

I think people have lost it. I really do. Analyze Hillary's tears??? Totally stupid.
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