Imagine this statement: Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B Anthony's dream began to be realized

[dkf]

when President Wilson pushed passage of the Nineteenth Amendment, when he was able to get through Congress something others were hopeful to do, the President before had not even tried, but it took a president to get it done. That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became a real in peoples lives because we had a president who said we are going to do it, and actually got it accomplished."

Well, thank goodness there was a white MAN around to give women a vote. Just like it was a white man that gave poor blacks their civil rights.

db wrote on January 13, 2008 11:51 AM:

http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/on_meet_the_press_hillary_again_pushes_back_hard_on_martin_luther_king_flap.php

[Anouka]

1. good luck. here's an umbrella. n/t

[earthside]

2. Touche! n/t

[dkf]

3. yeah when I read this I realized how badly she had screwed up.

[annie1]

4. it came out akward, that's not what she meant.

[dkf]

5. She's still defending it.

Go figure.

I think if she read this she would realize she needs to back down.

She would be the first one outraged at the thought that Pres. Wilson had more to do with women's rights than Stanton and Anthony.

[annie1]

7. she's defending what she was trying to say. what more can she do?...

i've heard her defend it, she said everything she could say about. and nothing afterwards was insulting imo. she made it clear that she in no way meant to diminish mlk, that she only meant that MLK also got the president involved to put his agenda into law. that's all she meant by the statement. Barack said he's bring mlk-like dreams to the people, and that his words inspire too, and she was trying to bring the argument back to the presidency, b/c that's what the conversation is supposed to be about.

[dkf]

8. Yeah it is too late to take it back.

She has to leave it now.

[IndianaGreen]

6. More of the white man's burden

The patronizing of the ruling class throwing morsels at the rest of us. We are not worthy!

[Bluerthanblue]

9. very good point.

and an appropriate comparison.

:hi:

[DemDogs]

10. as a woman, this schtick sickens me

[shifting_sands]

11. Bottom Up

Every push toward equal rights of women or African/Americans, or any human rights passage has been through the efforts of people from the bottom up. Even the ending of the Vietnam War was from the bottom up and not until there had been years of suffering and protests. Working conditions in this country were forced to improve through the people. The Presidents who signed the legislation were forced after years and years of people protests and the government was backed into the wall.

The so called captains of industry, government, business, like to think of themselves as the movers and shakers but change comes from the bottom up to the top until the top gets it.

[ruggerson]

12. Now you know exactly how gays and lesbians feel when your candidate says

we should "given a basic set of rights."

Welcome to our world.

[annie1]

13. Perfect analogy.