Cool numbers from the ABC Poll - (sex, race, religion, unpopular religion and age)

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

These are cool numbers. It's interesting to see the
differences between Dems and Pugs, and to see how
willing both paries are to diss Mormonism.
 
Most intriguing is the negative total for McCain's age. 
Nice to know he has an electoral weakness that tops sex and
race combined!



Effect on enthusiasm_____________More Less Net
Obama as first black president.. 19%  8   +11
Clinton as first woman.......... 24   15   +9
Huckabee as 1st Baptist minister 10   19   -9
Romney as first Mormon.......... 4    27  -23
McCain as first at age 72....... 3    31  -28


Net effect on enthusiasm
by leaned party...................Dems Reps
Obama as first black president... +22 -2
Clinton as first woman........... +32 -20
Huckabee as 1st Baptist minister. -17 +5
Romney as first Mormon........... -25 -23
McCain as first at age 72........ -35 -22

http://abcnews.go.com/images/PollingUnit/1057a1The08Race.pdf

("makes no difference" was an option,
so the numbers add up to much less than 100%)

[Chovexani]

1. So Mormons are the one thing everyone can agree on?

Wow.

[JeffR]

3. It's a weird variation on the brilliant old Tom Lehrer song...

"Oh, the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Muslims hate the Hindus
And everybody hates the Jews..."

[BenDavid]

6. Gee, and all these years I thought all those slurs directed at me

and my folks were folks just happy to see us....:sarcasm:

[Chovexani]

7. That song's exactly what I was thinking about

Amazing how he continues to be relevant even today. Amazing, and depressing.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

4. I hadn't noticed this before... Baptist Minister is the only positive for the Pugs

They really don't like anybody!

[Egnever]

5. That scares the hell out of me actually

The fundies have not lost their power yet.:scared:

[tridim]

10. If we make it clear that he's a fundy he'll lose a good chunk of the GOP vote.

I worry that the MSM will never reveal that Huckabee is a hard-core fundamentalist. I talked about this with my Republican parents and they said they wouldn't vote for him for that reason. Non-fundy Republicans in Kansas know exactly what's up.

I don't know how many votes that translates into, but I bet it's close to 30%. There's no way Huckabee can win without the non-fundy vote.

[Egnever]

11. I would love to see a poll on that question

Just among republicans to see what the breakdown was, say would never vote for,would consider,definitely would....

It would be interesting and I would be willing to be you are pretty close to the mark with 30%

30% would definitely mean a Dem win. It would also be interesting to see if of that 30% their Hillary hatred beats out the fundy aversion.

[Atman]

2. But they're all worthless. Don't you remember, polls mean nothing anymore.

I'm not even joking. Chris Matthews said it just this morning (Sunday). The republicans used this bullshit "polls don't work" meme so many times now that it's getting rather comical that they even dare mention polls at all. It's a brilliant cover for stealing elections. Exit polling was the last reliable method -- and it always had been reliable BB (before Bush) -- to double-check election results and spot irregularities. Now, we can't even do that. Nothing. They've eliminated all credibility from the process. No checks, no nothing. Just press the button and pray. You'll never know for sure, and they like it that way. It's by design, I assure you.

.

[Lucinda]

8. I've only seen Mc Cain it little clips lately....but I think his age might really be big negative

Well...not so much his chronological age, but he just seems faded. No passion, no vigor...just sort of there.

[goldcanyonaz]

9. McCain looks very old for his age, by todays standards.

[Lucinda]

13. I don't think its his appearance so much....he looks fine to me...its just

that he seems faded. And not focused anymore. Could be my bias....but I see no energy when I look at him. I just can't see him doing well in the general.

[RaleighNCDUer]

14. McCain is Hindenberg.

Respected by the majority, and unwitting tool for the nazis.

If he gets elected, watch out for his VP.

[Barack_America]

12. Wow. The Clinton-polarization effect in actual numbers...

"Net effect on enthusiasm
by leaned party...................Dems Reps
Obama as first black president... +22 -2
Clinton as first woman........... +32 -20
Huckabee as 1st Baptist minister. -17 +5
Romney as first Mormon........... -25 -23
McCain as first at age 72........ -35 -22"

Those are very interesting numbers. So I guess this tells us that a large majority of people selected "makes no difference" about electing a black candidate (about 75%). Of course you always wonder if there are some negatives hiding in there that don't want to admit it.

But what I really think is interesting is how Hillary really seems to pull people out of that "makes no difference" category. It seems that they're either big-time for her or big-time against her.

Fun numbers to look at, thanks.