Is anyone else feeling POSITIVE about things for OBAMA moving into NV

[Flabbergasted]

I feel things turning back around. Obama's going to do better than expected in NV and likely win SC.

Super Tuesday is anybody's bet, but Obama will pull off some upsets.

[dkf]

1. Yeah I feel it now.

Crossing my fingers!

[Flabbergasted]

74. Did you see the polls out of NV today?

[CoffeeCat]

2. Yes, I feel it...

...see my post about this.

I think he's got NV and SC.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4059521&mesg_id=4059597

[Flabbergasted]

4. I can easilly see it happening, Thanks.

[CoffeeCat]

32. These state elections..

...become so highly personalized---when the candidates are there for a while campaigning.

The campaigns take over local news and conversations. People start attending events and
getting excited about their role in this election. Then the media satellite trucks show
up!

It's all very exciting and the citizens of those states take these caucuses and elections
very seriously.

So, when Clinton and her people file a lawsuit, which would prevent people in Nevada
from participating---it's just not going to sit well. Both candidates have weaknesses.
One of Hillary's is that she's a cold, calculating politician who will step on anyone
to win. This lawsuit plays into that construct.

It's going to get so much media play in Nevada too. It will not bode well for Clinton.
Also, it's probably going to ignite those unions even further! They'll take this as a
personal slam.

[Cha]

51. Thanks for the analysis, Two Sparkles!~

Anything can happen but am going to stay up and positive like ya'll and the Obama Campaign!

[loveangelc]

3. how many states have open primaries on super tuesday?

[Flabbergasted]

6. .....

Alabama, Arkansas, Califoria, Georgia.

http://innovation.cq.com/primaries?tab=2

[sandnsea]

7. Doesn't really matter

California has a open primary, so that makes that interesting. Then you've got a whole bunch of western and plains states that aren't going to go for Hillary. That's why you're seeing endorsements from Nelson, McCaskill, etc. Then you've got the northeast, which is probably going to go Hillary and there's nothing to be done about it. And then there's the south which I expect to play out exactly like SC, barring any major changes. So I think we're in pretty good shape and the independent thing really doesn't matter.

[Radical Activist]

10. Obama has some big Mass. endorsements

He could win there too.

[sandnsea]

13. yeah yeah, forgot about Mass

Absolutely, feeling great about Massachusetts too!!

(My heavens, how could I forget Mass, please don't tell)

[loveangelc]

11. well I'm hoping Obama does well in CA with Independent help.

I hope you're right about the South and western/plain states. NV has Hillary way up in the polls.

[sandnsea]

14. Those are old polls

If I'm not mistaken.

[Flabbergasted]

17. We have polls in SC but not NV. Why?

[Barack_America]

19. I heard somewhere that the situation in Nevada...

...Is so dynamic in Nevada, that pollsters, fresh off their NH humiliation, are avoiding it like the plague.

[Califooyah Operative]

77. They weren't there even before NH and Iowa happened.

There have been lots of Iowa and NH and SC polls but Nevada had been largely forgotten.

[grantcart]

58. Polls

Here is a link to all of the latest polls by state including Nevada http://www.pollster.com/08presidentialprimary.php

[Flabbergasted]

60. All this is 6 weeks old. nt

[grantcart]

61. Look again

For SC it has 5 polls this month alone

Nevada has fewer polls being less new driven but has a poll from 1/11-13

http://www.pollster.com/08-NV-Dem-Pres-Primary.php
http://www.rgj.com/blogs/inside-nevada-politics/2008/01/new-poll-democratic-race-in-nevada-dead.html

[Flabbergasted]

63. People, after NH, were talking about Edwards winning in NV

and creating a three way tie. Given these polling results it's definately not out of the question.

I think it would be great!

[grantcart]

72. Its a nice sentiment

and typical of the much higher minded approach Obama and his supporters take over Hillary. And the reason we will probably be looking at President Obama in a year.

[Flabbergasted]

73. I will vote for Edwards gladly if he wins the nod. nt

[loveangelc]

21. yes, but aren't hispanic voters really pro-Hillary? And aren't they a large population

in the west???? All the state polls I've seen have given Hillary an advantage, though they are probably old. I just am hoping they have changed....

[sandnsea]

23. If she'd gotten the culinary union

I think Obama is going to do fine with Hispanics. I think there are a lot of assumptions about voters out there that are causing the Clintons to make misstep after misstep. Have you ever seen Bulworth? Like that, only not quite that goofy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGO7FVtk8wQ

[Barack_America]

30. A lot of the Culinary Workers are bound...

to be hispanics. They are a large population and it is a large workforce, there must be significant overlap.

When Hillary did the door knocking this week, there were several hispanic culinary workers who said they'd break ranks and vote for her. I wonder how they feel about that now?

[sandnsea]

33. There's always anecdotes

But there are all kinds of things at play, miners, environment, all kinds of things. Bill's work on the forests might help with voters in Reno and Tahoe, miners may just recoil from voting for a Clinton. Who knows.

[Barack_America]

34. I know so little of NV outside of Las Vegas...

...Thanks for pointing that stuff out.

[ZinZen]

49. As a life long Californian

I think once Obama gets out here and campaigns the polls will tighten up dramatically. Remember this is the state that voted for Arnold so they do like their rock star candidates. Obama is loaded with charisma and is a great and inspirational speaker about change that I will be surprised if Hillary wins it here. But Obama MUST campaign not only in the Bay Area, Los Angeles. He must come out to the vast Central Valley loaded with Dem, Indy and sane Repub votes.

[Flabbergasted]

55. I think California will go to Obama too.

[sandnsea]

5. I really do

Especially after I saw this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGO7FVtk8wQ

[Flabbergasted]

8. Yes We can.

[BringBigDogBack]

9. I'm feeling it

[Flabbergasted]

40. Good to hear!

[ellisonz]

12. I'm positive.

[Flabbergasted]

44. Keep it up. nt

[Barack_America]

15. How can you NOT feel positive at this point?

He's polling well in South Carolina.

The endorsements are pouring in.

He's staying true to his positive campaign.

It's a good time to be an Obama supporter.

[Flabbergasted]

16. I was down until earlier tonight. The tone of the campaign has gotten really nasty

I thought this was to Hillary's benefit but I'm feeling more positive now.

[Barack_America]

18. "Ignore" the idiots.

Don't let them drag you in. I know there is this urge to defend Obama, but there's no defending Obama with them. Their brains have been turned off and they won't listen to reason. They're not here to get informed or debate, they're only hear to smear everybody who isn't their candidate. Sometimes I swear that I've stumbled onto a GOP forum.

[Flabbergasted]

22. It does keep it exciting but there are a half dozen posters that are

incredibly obnoxious.

One OP today went one step short of saying he'd rather have Hillary cheat than lose. He didn't have any problem with extremely underhanded tactics as long as it produced a win.

It is one thing to use dialog as a political tool in elections but using lawsuits etc to disenfranchise voters is way over the line.

[ShadowLiberal]

20. I don't, but I'm a pessimistic person

I'll admit, I'm usually a very pessimistic person, and will usually assume the worst. But right now what what I've been seeing I just don't feel too confident in an Obama win in Nevada for several reasons.

1) There's been no new Nevada poll for over a month, and the last ones had Hillary up by like 20 points (before Iowa even voted yeah, but with her NH win to kill some of Obama's momentum, and Hillary's gigantic lead in the last polls, I won't feel the least bit confident until new polls showing Obama ahead in NV come out).

2) I don't live anywhere near Nevada, but I'm seeing almost nothing about the fighting among Obama and Hillary supporters about her King comments and other stuff causing a controversy and huge fight among them, meaning Hillary can't be damaged by it if no one who's not big into politics knows about it.

I will admit though, the endorsements Obama has been racking up lately do make me feel a bit hopeful that he's getting some momentum. Also http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/063503.php">this story makes me a bit more hopeful for Obama's chances.

[Flabbergasted]

24. The endorsements are interesting...

I wonder if their may be personal animosity with Hillary and some of the democrats?

Or do they just believe Obama is better suited for the job?

[Barack_America]

25. How about this story?

http://lasvegassun.com/blogs/early-line/2008/jan/13/obama-blasts-strip-caucus-controversy/

That's good news, eh?

[Flabbergasted]

36. Did you see this....? Obama up by two points in NV

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4061983&mesg_id=4061983

[ShadowLiberal]

41. Really? Thanks, things are looking up for Obama then

Especially if that lawsuit trying to stop the Culinary Union gets thrown out and the union members can vote.

[cali]

26. I wish I could, but I'm just disheartened by the whole thing

I think this thing about race is killing his candidacy and ripping our party to pieces. Hard to feel good about that.

[Drunken Irishman]

28. We'll rise above the storm, cali.

:hug:

When Obama wins Saturday and then takes South Carolina, the rhetoric coming out of Clinton's camp will be almost entirely ignored.

She's scared and desperate. She knows things aren't going well for her and she needs to do anything she can to make this a race again. But even I think Clinton won't keep this up if appears Obama is going to storm Super Tuesday.

[Flabbergasted]

29. Obama needs to diffuse it somehow.

I think he should announce that he knows the Clintons are not racists.

[Barack_America]

31. Ack, no! Watch the video!...n/t

[Drunken Irishman]

27. I felt it yesterday.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4049473&mesg_id=4049473

GOBAMA!

[Flabbergasted]

45. That was a great thread

[Barack_America]

35. I have to admit something...

meh, nevermind. I'm a dork.

[Flabbergasted]

56. ....

Are you admitting you're a dork?

:) :dunce:

[cindyw]

37. It does feel a little bit like it is turning, but after NH, who knows

[Flabbergasted]

38. Wait till Saturday. I think it's going to be good.

[stillcool]

39. Boomerang...

at least for those who live in the present, and not in the past.

[mopinko]

42. here in illinois- interesting

i am on the north edge of chicago. this has been obama country for a long time.
now, they are, quite sensibly, not spending a dime in illinois. (ok, there is one office downtown. the phone bankers are calling nevada voters.)
we had a rally last weekend for our slate, of which barack is the top. this ward is already pretty politically active. but half the people who came to this rally were new faces. he isn't even here, but mention his name, and they come out of the woodwork. i think that is the ace in the hole, here. and i think that he is going to have long, long, long coattails.

[Flabbergasted]

43. Great!!!!

[bigwillq]

46. I am not feeling positive

about neither of our two top candidates. :(

[Marrah_G]

47. No, not really

I am not feeling positive about Obama or Clinton. They have both allowed the media to pull them into this manufactured tiff that is going to hurt us badly in the long run.

We aren't going to be beaten in Nov by the GOP, but we damn well may get beat by our own stubborn ignorance.

Both of them can kiss off in my book, for not having the courage to stand up and say "I am not going to be baited into this fight by the RW and MSM and expect my supporters not to be either.

I am disappointed in them both. They are jeopardizing the elections.

However I will fight and support whomever wins the Nom, but our jobs are going to be made all the harder by this.

[bagrman]

48. The lower the level of black box voting the better he will do.

[Flabbergasted]

59. I'm not sure of that....

At this point it's up in the air with no real "proof" out of NH. I am anticipating the recount though.

[bagrman]

65. It would be so sweet if the count was wrong and it could be proven that the boxs are being hacked.

Then the whole lot of them across the country could be put in a pile and set aflame. Problem is the MSM has been for Clinton for quite a while and if the machines are being hacked they are on the side that is doing it. and the Repugs would love to have Clinton as their competition, she's the easiest target.

Latr

[Flabbergasted]

69. Clinton inspires the pub base and does nothing for ours.

[ZinZen]

50. I think Obama will win both NV and SC

just my opinion. I also think Edwards may pull ahead of Clinton in NV because of her negative campaign tactics.

[Cha]

54. That would be ideal...in a perfect world

and instant karma. Everyone always says they don't like negative attacks from the politicians but bill and hillary just keep them coming. I'm guessing their campaign is based on nothing so they have to attack BarackO.

Who knows? Maybe it's all good for Obama as warm up for pukes.

[elizm]

52. I'm feeling it. Michelle Obama asked us today in SC to "dream"..

And I'm dreaming it....Nothing stopping us now. :)

[Flabbergasted]

53. For some reason the pictures on your thread aren't loading for me.

Can't figure it out.

What was the content?

[elizm]

57. Hmmm...that's odd. They were pictures of Michelle in Georgetown, SC today. nt

[Flabbergasted]

66. Did you take the photos?

[AtomicKitten]

62. Very much so.

My friends and I knocked on doors in Nevada for 10 days last month. The people we spoke with were very excited about the upcoming primary and VERY receptive to Obama.

[Flabbergasted]

68. Great news!

Thanks for doing that.

[ihelpu2see]

64. GO Bama!!! nt

[Flabbergasted]

67. ditto

[THUNDER HANDS]

70. no

I had positive feelings in New Hampshire.

I'm as confused today as I was that night.

[Flabbergasted]

71. A two point polling lead heading into a conservative state is very good news.

[Califooyah Operative]

75. Absolutely.

I was on the ground there for a week. We have a great organization there and will get a major boost from Culinary, SEIU, and UNITE HERE. The offices are all overflowing with volunteer support and everyone is enthusiastic and hard working. Things look very good for Nevada and the polls are showing now.

[Flabbergasted]

76. Great. Thanks for the report.

[Califooyah Operative]

78. No Prob. Thank You. nt