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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:22 PM
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MSM NOT Playing full Hillary comments, re: MLK and LBJ - Watch total clip here
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 12:23 PM by FrenchieCat
The Media is running a clip of HRC's comments that she made referencing MLK and LBJ.

However, The media is only running the first part of Hillary Clinton's comments, which by themselves are not so bad......and they are not running the part of her comments that make what she said controversial.

Why is that? :shrug:


Please watch the entire video at the link.
http://sweetness-light.com:80/archive/hillary-lbj-not-mlk-passed-civil-rights-act-2
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:26 PM
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1. Wow. I have no clue??
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 12:27 PM by Yael
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:58 PM
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9. "Wow. I have no clue??" True and admission is your first step to rehabilitation
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Yael Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:07 PM
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13. It was sarcasm
not that I would expect you to recognise that, what with the image and all.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:29 PM
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2. Yes, people shouldn't misrepresent candidates' comments, should they?
You live by the distortion, you die by the distortion.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:34 PM
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3. LOL :-)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:39 PM
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4. Her contention that King's dream "began" when LBJ legislated civil rights
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 12:42 PM by rocknation
trivializes the fact that it was King's efforts that made it necessary for LBJ to legislate civil rights!

:headbang:
rocknation
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:44 PM
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5. except she didn't say that
Why can't Hillary haters ever be honest?

She said "Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964… It took a president to get it done.”

And I don't see anything offensive in that.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:52 PM
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6. I'm legitimately critizing her, not hating her.
and it shouldn't have taken an MLK to get an LBJ's attention.

:headbang:
rocknation
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:54 PM
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8. but it's not legitimate criticism
to accuse her of things she didn't say.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:19 PM
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15. Well, I DID say that it was her CONTENTION
which WAS based on what she DID say.

:headbang:
rocknation
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:36 PM
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17. that doesn't change anything
she didn't contend what you say she did.

I don't know why it was so hard - the link in the OP has the video, and the exact sentence in question quoted right below it.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:53 PM
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:00 PM
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11. Is she saying that she's LBJ
and that Barack is MLK?
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:01 PM
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12. No
you can watch the video and see what she's saying for yourself.
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ellacott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:11 PM
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14. I asked this question sincerely
My goodness.

I've watched this clip numerous times and still haven't figured out what the hell she was trying to say. Thus, my question.

What she said was clumsy and doesn't really make sense.

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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:37 PM
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18. Here's what she said:
"Dr. King’s dream began to be realized when President Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964… It took a president to get it done.”

What's not to understand? She was stating that a movement is fine and good, but to IMPLEMENT that dream takes political leaders, not just movement leaders.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 12:59 PM
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10. would Bush have signed it?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 01:20 PM
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16. If congress would have passed it veto proof, guess he wouldn't have had a choice....
Edited on Mon Jan-14-08 01:21 PM by FrenchieCat
but that's not the point.

The point is that Hillary was attempting to say was that it takes the "doers" to actually get things done, not the dreamers.

That's been her premise to date. That she "does", while Obama "talks".

However, in her senate career, she hasn't "done" so much more than Barack....so I'm not sure why she believes so strongly that she "done" so much, considering how much longer she's been in the senate.

In her attempting to take credit for the entire Clinton administration and whatever happened there to make her seem so experienced, she has to take the bad with the good. And the bad; losing the house majority, divisive government which ended with an impeachment, 800,000 dead Rwandans, NAFTA and signing the 1996 Telecommunications act, and reform on Bankrupcy laws to the detriment of debtors weren't exactly exactly what the American people had bargained for.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-14-08 03:02 PM
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19. She defined King as a 'doer' because he made speeches, worked with politicians and got beaten and...
arrested. He did it ALL.

But he needed allies in political office - and LBJ was one of them. That's why MLK campaigned for LBJ.

Congress, at that time, was NOT progressive. It was LBJ twisting arms that really got it through.
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