The WORST talking points memo in history!

[Barack_America]

Read it for yourself.

Where is there a request that Obama supporters bring up these incidents?

Where are the guidelines on how to talk about these incidents?

If this is a "talking points memo", it is the worst example in all of history.

Or, is it possible that the Obama campaign has just catalogued the incidents in question so their supporters know what's going on?

Please think.

SHUCK AND JIVE

Clinton Supporter Andrew Cuomo, Referring To Obama, Said "You Can't Shuck
And Jive At A Press Conference. All Those Moves You Can Make With The Press
Don't Work When You're In Someone's Living Room." Clinton-supporting New
York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo said the thing that's great about New
Hampshire is that you have to go out and meet people rather than "shuck and
jive" through press conferences there. Cuomo said of New Hampshire on an
Albany radio station: "It's not a TV-crazed race. Frankly, you can't buy
your way into it. You can't shuck and jive at a press conference. All those
moves you can make with the press don't work when you're in someone's living
room."

MARTIN LUTHER KING / LYNDON JOHNSON COMPARISON

Clinton, Criticizing Obama For Promising "False Hope" Said That While MLK
Jr. Spoke On Behalf Of Civil Rights, President Lyndon Johnson Was The One
Who Got Legislation Passed: "It Took A President To Get It Done." Clinton
rejoined the running argument over hope and "false hope" in an interview in
Dover this afternoon, reminding Fox's Major Garrett that while Martin Luther
King Jr. spoke on behalf of civil rights, President Lyndon Johnson was the
one who got the legislation passed. Hillary was asked about Obama's
rejoinder that there's something vaguely un-American about dismissing hopes
as false, and that it doesn't jibe with the careers of figures like John F.
Kennedy and King. "Dr. King's dream began to be realized when President
Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act," Clinton said. "It took a president to
get it done."

Clinton Introducer Said JFK Gave Hope, But Was Assassinated. Clinton
introducer: "If you look back, some people have been comparing one of the
other candidates to JFK and he was a wonderful leader, he gave us a lot of
hope but he was assassinated and Lyndon Baines Johnson actually did all his
work and got the republicans to pass all those measures." 1/7/08] AUDIO ATTACHED

NELSON MANDELA

Bill Clinton Implied Hillary Clinton Is Stronger Than Nelson Mandela. "I
have been blessed in my life to know some of the greatest figures of the
last hundred years. <...> I go to Nelson Mandela's birthday party every year
and we're still very close. <...> But if you said to me, 'You've got one last
job for your country but it's hazardous and you may not get out with life
and limb intact and you have to do it alone except I'll let you take one
other person, and I had to pick one person whom I knew who would never
blink, who would never turn back, who would make great decisions <...> I would
pick Hillary.'"

DRUG USE

Clinton's NH Campaign Chair Raised The Youthful Drug Use Of Obama And Said
It Would "Open The Door To Further Queries On The Matter." Clinton's
Campaign Issued A Statement Distancing Themselves From Shaheen's Comments
And Shaheen Issued A Statement Saying That He "Deeply Regrets The
Comments." The Democratic presidential race took on a decidedly nasty and
personal turn, with the New Hampshire co-chair for Clinton, raising the
youthful drug use of Obama. Shaheen said Obama's having been so open -- as
opposed to then-Gov. George W. Bush, who refused to detail his past drug use
during his 2000 presidential campaign -- will "open the door to further
queries on the matter. It'll be, 'When was the last time? Did you ever give
drugs to anyone? Did you sell them to anyone?'" Shaheen said. "There are so
many openings for Republican dirty tricks. It's hard to overcome." By the
end of the day, Clinton campaign spokesman Phil Singer had issued a
statement asserting that "these comments were not authorized or condoned by
the campaign in any way." And Shaheen himself issued a statement: "I deeply
regret the comments I made today and they were not authorized by the
campaign in any way."

Mark Penn, In Trying To Defend His Campaign Over Bill Shaheen's Obama Drug
Use Comments, Used The Word "Cocaine," Drawing A Rebuke From Edwards Adviser
Joe Trippi. Mark Penn, defending the Clinton campaign in light of Bill
Shaheen's comments about Obama's drug use, repeatedly referenced Obama's
cocaine use. Edwards adviser Joe Trippi accused Penn of dropping the word
"cocaine" deliberately. Mark Penn said "Well, I think we have made clear
that the -- the issue related to cocaine use is not something that the
campaign was in any way raising. And I think that has been made clear. I
think this kindergarten thing was a joke after Senator." Joe Trippie
responded and said "I think he just did it again. He just did it again. ...
This guy's been filibustering on this. He just said cocaine again."


FAIRY TALE

Donna Brazile Lashed Into Bill Clinton For Comparing Obama To A "Fairy Tale"
And Said "It's An Insult... As An African-American" And That His Tone And
Words Are "Very Depressing." Donna Brazile lit into Bill Clinton over his
insulting comments of Obama, where he called him a "fairy tale" and said "I
could understand his frustration at this moment. But, look, he shouldn't
take out all his pain on Barack Obama. It's time that they regroup. Figure
out what Hillary needs to do to get her campaign back on track. It sounds
like sour grapes coming from the former commander in chief. Someone that
many Democrats hold in high esteem. For him to go after Obama, using a fairy
tale, calling him as he did last week. It's an insult. And I will tell you,
as an African-American, I find his tone and his words to be very depressing.
... I think his tone, I think calling Barack Obama a kid, he is a United
States senator." < /div>

[sniffa]

1. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE MEMO!!!1!!?

[Barack_America]

4. That IS the memo.

The very same memo that you've been hearing about.

Not much there, eh?

[sniffa]

6. yeah, i know

but saying "WHAT ABOUT THE MEMO" makes some feel good.

it's damning, and it doesn't make Clinton look good, and Obama bad.

[Debi]

13. Those freaky people who make lists drive me bonkers

the past is the past, let it go (well except when it's an opponents past then have your supporters give speeches about it :eyes:)

Has Bob Johnson stepped down yet?

[babylonsister]

2. Check your post; you may have some brackets in there you need

to get rid of.

[Barack_America]

3. Yep. They were imbedded in the memo itself. Thanks. n/t

[Justpat]

5. OK. I'll dive in here.

And I'll stick with the second point.

Here we have a quote in which Hillary is made out to be an African American hating monster
because she said that Martin Luther King's dream needed the political process to become
reality. That bitch!! What was she thinking? Didn't she get realize that all you had to
was wish really, really, really hard and you could bypass the legislative process of
making law in order to realize your dream? Jeez, I think I'll just jump over to another
candidate in outrage.

Some of these new trolls don't even try.

[Barack_America]

7. Please provide for me the exact language..

...in the memo that suggests that interpretation.

[sandnsea]

8. And that Susan B Anthony

thank goodness she had a big strong man to step in and take care of voting rights for her.

[rocktivity]

9. It's just a list of the Obama camp's perceived slights from the Clinton Camp

I'd add "that dog won't hunt," but I don't want to be accused of implying that Hillary's a bitch!

:rofl:
rocknation

[mrdemocrat78]

10. Clinton is using the same tactics as Faux News

They don't actually come out and accuse... they just say it with a question mark at the end, so they're asking, not saying.

Obama's past drug use a problem?
Obama injecting race?
I got one...

Hillary Clinton a closet republican?
and see, it's okay because I'm not saying she is one, I'm just asking.

[styersc]

11. This is the sort of garbage that has ended any support I had for

Obama. He had me when the message was "a new politics" but now he is in the Limbaugh/Hannity gutter. Snippets of remarks taken out of context, spun and maipulated quotations all with a phony pretense of being offended by the aggregious act. Ridiulous.

I will vote for the Dem candidate in November. But if it is Obama I will do so by holding my nose and will not have much hope for what could have been before he began believing his own hype. Given the rare likelihhod that the nation will trust the highest office to a man who was not old enough to hold the office for half of the time that the last Democrat held it, I see long lasting catastrophe for the party and the nation.

[Barack_America]

12. What kind of garbage?

Keeping track of things that were reported in the media, without encouraging his supporters to talk about them?

[styersc]

14. If you are so very naive, not to know that the Obama campaign

is falsely smearing Democrats who have been taking hits and carrying water for this party and progressivbe causes for 40 years then you may be a perfect example of why someone so young may not be right for the office in 2008.

An old story was floating around Texas from LBJ's first congressional election. Story goes that at one point LBJ directed his campaign manager to use his media contacts to float the story that his opponent was fond having sex with pigs.

The campaign manager was taken aback and told LBJ, "We don't know that he's a pig fucker!!" To which Johnson replied, "I know he's not. I just want to hear him deny on the evening news."

There is no way to know if there is any truth to the story, but as long as you can keep the CLinton's having to deny such crap, you know they get dirty through the process. Disgusting and transparent.

[Barack_America]

15. As well are you, for believing that they are....n/t