Clinton Receives Luke Warm Response After MLK Event

[wndycty]

Clinton Receives Luke Warm Response After MLK Event

January 14, 2008 3:50 PM

ABC News' Kate Snow, Susan Kriskey and Eloise Harper Report:

Hillary Clinton spoke to a less than enthusiastic crowd at an event honoring Martin Luther King, Jr. with union members focusing on security workers in New York. The speakers before Clinton were cheered and received a standing ovation. When Clinton took the stage there was applause but scattered boo's as members walked out of the hall.

The Democratic Senator from New York referenced King at the top of her speech saying, "It's a pleasure to be celebrating Dr. King's life and to be carrying forward his vision," and "you understand as Dr. King did that your cause was his cause." Clinton continued, "each of us, no matter who we are and where we started from, is a beneficiary of Dr. King."

Clinton did shift the tone to politics and after referencing the fact that there was a woman and an African-American running for president, Clinton said it "should cause our hearts to leap with joy and celebration" and said, "we need to bring together the democratic party." Clinton also said "both Senator Obama and I know that we are where we are today because of leaders like Dr King." There was applause after these remarks.

Some members of the audience said they admired Clinton but thought her remarks at the event to commemorate King were a bit awkward or out of place.
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/01/clinton-recieve.html

[babylonsister]

1. Well, it seems that strategery backfired. What will she think of next? nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

3. hispanic voter suppression?

:shrug:

[MADem]

12. Are you kidding? She's got the EDGE with that demographic.

Turn on Telemundo or Univision. She's getting boatloads of very FAVORABLE coverage.

The hispanic voter suppression would come from her OPPONENTS.

[Beacool]

33. You are sooooo wrong it's funny!!!

The Hispanic community love the Clintons. I should know, I'm the volunteer coordinator for the Hispanic group in my area. I have yet to talk to a Democratic Hispanic who dislikes them.

[Yael]

46. Already done. Maybe bring a puppy on stage with her?

[babylonsister]

47. Ha!

Nothing would surprise me.

[Califooyah Operative]

79. well her Nevada supporters are trying to disinfranchise the Culinary Workers...

on the strip who have a large hispanic percentage, if not a majority. They agreed to the rules, then lost the endorsement. Obama also go SEIU and UNITE HERE Nevada. Now Clinton supporters don't think these labor groups, their workers, or workers on the strip in general ought to have a voice or a vote in the election. Yea, that sounds like at least voter suppression.

[bvar22]

77. One thing for sure....she isn't going to apologize or admit a mistake.

She is as stubborn as george bush* when it comes to insisting she is right.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. This sounds just like the pre-NH Clinton reporting.

Clinton was going to lose big, playing to half empty rooms.

[aquart]

6. What? It didn't happen?

[Blue_State_Elitist]

7. "Some people say"

that Bill and Hillary can't fill a small classroom. "Some people say."

[jenmito]

19. She WAS going to lose big. The polls weren't taken after her "human" moment

which changed so many women's minds. But she erased all that with her new line of attacks on Obama.

[aquart]

4. Boos?

So the Obama people's attacks are working. He must be so proud.

[goldcanyonaz]

27. You can't use the word "proud" any longer,. You're proud of a child, but you respect a man.

You really need to keep up.

:rofl:

[goldcanyonaz]

5. Yep, all 3 of them walked out. What a statement.

boo hiss, on the all the anti Clinton posts.

From where I'm sittin, them Clinton's have done good by me

[cali]

8. she's reaping what she sowed.

I feel no sympathy about this. too bad, hill.

[goldcanyonaz]

10. That's bullshit, Clinton has always been our black voice in government.

I understand that you support Obama, but this shit is unnecessary.

What is her voting record that supports her being a racist?

[wndycty]

11. We are not talking about governing, we are talking about the way she has run her campaign. . .

:kick:

[goldcanyonaz]

16. I respect you wndycty, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with you.

:hug:

[Catherine Vincent]

13. Don't listen to the O supporters.

Their anti-Clinton garbage is heavy on this site. Hillary is in the way for their guy to win the nomination.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

15. The IWR.

[goldcanyonaz]

21. And?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

23. You asked.

:shrug:

[goldcanyonaz]

24. Okies, that's fair, sorry for being a meanie.

[cali]

17. I have NEVER said she was a racist.

I'm saying that her campaign has had one surrogate after another make sleazy attacks on Obama. SHE is responsible ultimately for the tone of her campaign, just as Obama is responsible for his. Her campaign started this shit, and they are reaping what they sowed.

And there have been fucking endless attacks on Obama today. Didn't notice YOU saying a thing about it. My comment wasn't inflammatory. I've defended Clinton in several threads, but frankly I think she's playing with fire and I'm not sorry to see her get burned.

[goldcanyonaz]

20. We will just have to agree to disagree, because I'm sick of fighting.

I want a dialog, and if this election brings us one, then I'm the happiest fucking person in the world.

Don't want to argue with you, Cali.

[fenriswolf]

25. no shes always gotten the black vote because

who else were they going to vote for? just because certain people voted for her doesnt mean that they can't find someone else who would represent them better.

[goldcanyonaz]

37. That's bullshit, and I resent your statement. She represents us just fine.

[fenriswolf]

43. you can resent me all you want

doesnt mean the the african american community can't vote for someone they think would better represent them. I mean just cause clinton was their best bet before doesnt mean it is now.

Oh and ask someone from the african american community if that sentament is false. they should stay with someone out of loyalty not because they are the best person for the job in their opinion.

[goldcanyonaz]

50. Oh, so you're the "African American" community now? My black community supports her.

So, there goes your "African American" community speech.

NEXT!

[fenriswolf]

56. no im not im actually caucasian

and im glad for your "black" community

I'm saying that if you are staying out of loyalty for someone rather then someone whom "you" think would do a better job of representing you then you should rethink your attitude.

I know i would vote for the person whom "I" believe would represent me best.

[goldcanyonaz]

60. I'm not voting for Clinton out of "loyalty" I'm voting for her outta respect. She respects ME!

[fenriswolf]

61. Im not an obama supporter

but I just have to ask why do you think obama wont respect you and understand whats going on in your community then a rich white women?

[goldcanyonaz]

64. I NEVER said that Obama wouldn't respect me. I'll vote for the nominee.

[fenriswolf]

66. and im talking primaries.

[goldcanyonaz]

67. I don't get your "rich white women" preface, care to elaborate?

Thank you!

[fenriswolf]

69. hillary grew up in a rich privillaged caucasion society.

just wanted to know why you liked/respected/identify more with her, so much more so that you will vote for her rather then obama.

[goldcanyonaz]

70. You're completely fabricating, Hillary was no rich girl.

She represents my beliefs, do you run around asking everyone else why they support a candidate.

Shit, i need to get a bigger stick if I wanna hang our here.

[fenriswolf]

71. actually i do

i like talking to people about why the like who they like. Its called an exchange of ideas and opinions. I think it's interesting that you would defend hillary when their is a perfectly viable candidate that would probably represent you better. sorry if your getting heated i just wanted to talk.

*edit* she was wealthier and more privliged then I was, I'm making a guess here but she was probably more well off then you were to growing up.

[goldcanyonaz]

72. Who would represent me better?

[fenriswolf]

74. i said probably

i do not know who you are but if you are a member of the african american community chances are you have experianced some form of racism or another (i'm sure your going to point out assuming candidate preferance based on race is racist as well)

anyways i would just think the african american community if they were going to vote for a candidate on who would best represent their interests that a candidate that shares at least a similear heritage or simliear experiances growing up would be a big draw. I could be wrong though.

[bvar22]

78. If you are an American who Works for a Living,

John Edwards would represent you better.

[City Lights]

86. "Hillary was no rich girl"

:rofl:

[Anouka]

38. A White Woman as 'Our Black Voice in Government'. We need to stop.

Arizona, I thought I saw you claim to be black a couple threads back. I'll believe you, but only because plantation politics has never disappeared from within the community.

But seriously: do you *really* not get the irony over having a white person be the black voice in government?

Do you really prefer for it to stay that way?

Do you really believe that the best voice for Blacks is a White woman? A white woman whose black surrogates spent a hell of a lot of time trying to convince fellow blacks that Obama wasn't really black in the first place?

How is this white woman going to legitimately sympathize with black issues in ways that the son of a white woman and an immigrant black man cannot?

I don't think this is about a black voice at all.

I think this is about patronage. I believe we black folk need to get off the patronage and 'white folks can do better for us than we can' tip. We are in crisis, Arizona. The black family is in crisis. No more broken promises, no more 'waiting' for 'them' to fix 'us'. No more plantation politics.

Obama and Michelle represent what one can achieve, without waiting. I don't know how to put this without offending a lot of folks here.

[Muttocracy]

54. "our black voice"

Um, I think there are a few elected officials who might feel left out by that...

[Anouka]

58. It's pandering. n/t

[Skwmom]

80. It's not that she's a racist. It's that she'll play the race card to

get elected.

[dailykoff]

83. Absolutemente.

Makes me verklemt just thinking about it.

[Catherine Vincent]

9. They probably thought she'd have Bill with her. nt

[jenmito]

14. Good. She DESERVES only a lukewarm response.

She's trying to compensate for her remark about MLK the other day. People can see through her pandering. She acts as if she's HAPPY Obama's in the race? Then why is she and her people trying so hard to destroy him?

[Thrill]

18. You mean no praising of Lyndon Johnson?

[goldcanyonaz]

22. And, you have a problem with Lyndon Johnson? Why?

[FrenchieCat]

26. Because it's not his birthday coming up.

it's MLK's! :)

[goldcanyonaz]

30. Thanks, Frenchie!

:hug:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

28. Well, there was that whole Vietnam thing.

If the bastard's not burning in hell for something else, there's certainly that.

[goldcanyonaz]

31. Eeek, sorry, I didn't mean to bite your head off.

lol!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

36. Alright then, there's that too.

Like the time he killed civil rights legislation in the fifties.

What, you think he signed the later civil rights bills in the sixties because he cared about black people? The guy who had MLK followed by the FBI and tried to link him to communism in order to discredit him?

[goldcanyonaz]

40. Geeze, I'm only 30 here, but I do NOT believe that she tried to discredit him

Why would she? What would she have to gain?

Nothing, because w/o the black vote her victory would be nothing less than hollow.

And, with only the white vote, her presidency would be doomed.

We need to build bridges here, people!

Not rip them down.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

42. Why? Because she wanted to discredit Obama.

So instead of discrediting the comparison, she fucked up and discredited MLK. Why? Because she ain't that smart.

[goldcanyonaz]

49. You black? I ask because you're speaking like you know what the fuck is going on...

And, you don't know what the fuck is going on. Martin Luther King was a great man, and Hillary Clinton would NEVER discredit him. She is a great woman, and to discredit her this way is nothing less than a shanda.

Question, have you ever supported Clinton, or are you just jumping on the bandwagon?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

52. No, I'm white.

But I'm not stupid.

"Hillary Clinton would NEVER discredit him."

I'd like to think she wouldn't. But there it is. Call it a flub, call it a gaffe. Just don't pretend it didn't happen.

"Question, have you ever supported Clinton, or are you just jumping on the bandwagon?"

I supported her campaign over the anonymous republican candidate for Senator of NY. But since she joined the warmongerers in supporting the war in Iraq she's lost it. There's no way I could support a person like that.

[goldcanyonaz]

63. Oh, the warmongers angle. NEXT!

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

65. Ah, the ignore the war angle.

That again.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

51. Johnson Was Horribly Misguided About The War As Was His Predecessor

But it was a different milieu and he didn't want to be the first president to lose a war...

I thought Bobby Kennedy as AG ordered the wiretap on Dr. King; an action that he clearly , clearly regretted...

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

53. He ordered the original wiretap, yes.

It continued under Johnson, along with the wiretaping of other civil rights leaders.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

29. Anyone who thinks this is good for Obama or bad for Clinton is out of their mind

eom

[cali]

35. you think a lukewarm reception and boos are good for your candidate?

I'm not sure you can actually write more than one sentence, but do try and explain why this isn't bad for Clinton.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

44. See New Hampshire. Voters smell lame attacks a mile away eom.

eom.

[creeksneakers2]

41. I'm not out of my mind

Its hurting both sides.

[Barack_America]

32. In New York, nonetheless.

Why is she already campaigning in Super Tuesday states? Don't we have a little matter of South Carolina and Nevada coming up in the near future?

[maddiejoan]

45. Yeah How strange

for a sitting NY Senator to participate in an MLK event in her home state.

[Anouka]

34. Hey Hillary: how about NOT referrencing 'a woman and a black'??!

Why is she so focused on that? Why is she turning this into victimhood/payback Olympics? Mentioning it so often is suspect... and counter to everything Dr. King was reaching for in the first place.

Is the only thing she has to offer her vagina?

Is the only thing she's trying to associate Obama with is the color of his skin, courtesy of his father?

Is she planning on bringing Obama down with her if she can't get the nomination? Is she planning on blaming sexism? again?

The Clintons and their campaign is a trip. It's negative.

[Barack_America]

39. Perhaps playing up the "I am minority too....sorta" thing?

It is getting tired.

Yes Hillary, we're aware of who is running. Thank you.

[Anouka]

55. White women have made the most gains under affirmative action.

Yes, she's trying to make out like she's a minority too......... only she isn't. This is the same woman who so nastily treated fellow women who fell for her husband's cheap lines.

I'd rather see a woman who happens to be white, who made it on top by herself, than the magician's act Hillary is playing.

There have to be more women with plans for the United States, who are concerned about the United States and not about going into the history books.......... who are capable of being supported for a run for President, from within the Party.

Access to Power

This story comes to you from the "Why It's Bullshit To Talk About Sexism Without Discussing White Privilege" Department:

White women are making far greater strides in the workplace than their African-American female counterparts, according to a recent report.

Following the story links NPR provides to Pink Magazine, where the story originated, there isn't a full text available but there is this summary:

Are white women supporting their black sisters in the fight for gender parity? The small percentage of African-Americans among women corporate officers (5.9 percent in one study) suggests the answer is no. High-ranking women of color in PINK's January.February issue point out that white women are, in fact, afforded many of the same privileges as white males. "White women need to remember to honor the covenant between all women," says Sandra Finley, president and CEO of The League of Black Women. "They need to stop saying, 'That could happen to anybody.' The reality is that what happens to black women is different."

This isn't a matter of negligence, it's a matter of betrayal. Women like Steinem are quick to invoke "the sisterhood" as a reason to vote for Hillary Clinton, but black women see few of the same benefits that white women do; yet they're still expected to feel (and act on) gender solidarity with people who essentially ignore the issues facing them. Unless it involves some high profile figure like Imus.

Links at the site. There are some hard discussions that need to be happening, between all sides... which are not.

[IndianaGreen]

48. Perhaps she will shed a tear or two, and get all choked up.

Evita Peron was a better actress than Hillary.

[roesch]

59. true colors

I was on vacation for six days and avoided the news and tv except for the Packers! Now that I check out the current scene, I see that the Clintons are up to their usual tricks and willing to say anything for their re-election. I just hope folks decide that eight years in the white house was enough for this couple and now is time for a change.

[Catherine Vincent]

73. After Bill Clinton's 8 years we did get change.

George W. Bush. I take it you Clinton-haters like that kind of change.

[LostinVA]

82. On here since 2001 and only 36 posts -- and you post slamming Bill Clinton's presidency

NIIIIIIIICE.

[Cha]

57. That's the money question, isn't it?

"Is she planning on bringing Obama down with her if she can't get the nomination? Is she planning on blaming sexism? again?"

[Muttocracy]

62. different take on it

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4065248

Any eyewitnesses here? I don't trust ANY of the media. Then again, do I trust this blog??? :crazy:

[indimuse]

68. If Obama was half the Great Man as you would believe..then

HE would put a stop to this BOGUS CRAP NOW! He still has NOT removed himself from Jesse Jackson Jr and his Intentional Personal RACIST assaul on Hillary Right there on National TV! Right after the NH loss...He also Made this statement!


I wondered how long it would take Jesse Jackson or his relatives to make race an issue in the political aspirations of Barack Obama. I came across an article written by Timothy Noah. The article states that Jesse Jackson Jr. is a campaign co-chairman for Obama who has disagreed openly with his father's position on Obama's run for the White House. Jackson Sr. took an implicit swipe at Obama by writing in the November 27th Chicago Sun-Times that "the Democratic candidates, with the exception of John Edwards, have virtually ignored the plight of African Americans in this country." Six days later, Jesse Jr. published a letter in the Sun-Times entitled, "You are wrong on Obama Dad." I had expected Jesse Jackson Sr. to have a position against Obama. I guess that is what makes following him so wrong for the black community. Jackson tries to make race a factor in everything he talks about, even when he is right, he seems terribly wrong.
What I find a little disturbing about Jackson Jr.'s position is that he stated, on the night of Obama's Iowa caucus win, he told the Washington Post about the inadvisability of Obama going negative against Hillary Clinton. "The natural reminder here is O.J. Simpson,:spray: how does an African-American candidate attack a white woman.":wtf: He had to take it there. What is he saying is that, in essence, if Obama criticizes Hillary too much, he will stir up the racist throwback about black men violating white women. My position, is why mention the O.J. factor at all? O.J. is described as a wife-killer by most Americans.
To suggest that Obama stands shoulder to shoulder with O.J. is an insult to him. Come on Jesse Jr. and Jesse Sr., cut the man some slack and don't go bringing up old stuff that has nothing to do with his campaign. (((hence ...Katrina...nothing to do with campaign)))this man is a liability to Obama...you'll see.



Please be fucking honest for once ...Obama fans.

[TeamJordan23]

75. Was Obama in the crowd booing?

I think that each person can come up with their own judgment on the issue.

Also, nice try in trying to spin it for Hillary.

[indimuse]

76. That has NNOTHING to do with my post...

Obama supporter showed their class by boo though!

[dailykoff]

81. Breaking: Hilly will celebrate LBJ day on Monday.

Seeya at the pigfarm, Hilly! :hi:

[dailykoff]

84. She's losing her own state

which doesn't have Diebold machines I read somewhere. Smart move Hilly.

[HamdenRice]

87. We have giant grey clunky things with levers!

At least New York City does. You flick mechanical switches next to your candidates names, and then move this gigantic lever back and forth to mechanically record your vote. They can't be hacked.

You practically have to have well muscled forearms to vote in these double-phone booth sized monstrosities. It really makes you feel like you've done something when you've voted with one of these things.

The feds have sued New York to force us to go to electronic voting, but I hope we don't get rid of the great grey beasts!

[antiimperialist]

85. Breaking news: mainstream media downplays Hillary rally (zzz)