Kucinich Loses Appeal!

[mikelgb]

http://www.nvsupremecourt.us/documents/cases/50889.ordergrantingpetition.pdf

On Edit: Fuck!

Court grants Order of Prohibition and a further order of Mandamus....

[lynnertic]

1. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

:mad:

[tekisui]

2. Well, that's some shit.

[bicentennial_baby]

3. Fuck them....

Eh, why bother watching?....

[AnOhioan]

4. What a bunch of crap...

So...anyone know what is on TV tinight..I sure as hell won't be watching the Hillary/Barack show.

[AGirl]

23. forget TV :)

[Whisp]

27. Boston Legal - 9 central.

looks like it will be one of the last in the can new ones.

I would have traded BL, my favorite show on tv, to listen to Kucinich - but am not very interested to listen to those anointed yammering script readers.

[BringBigDogBack]

5. that's a load of bullshit.

pisses me off

[bigwillq]

6. That's fucking bullshit!

:mad:

[Sarah Ibarruri]

7. shit! Why is NBC allowed to decide who the candidates shall be????

And who are/is the judge(s) who decided this?

[tekisui]

9. NBC/GE/WAR PROFITEERS!

[BringBigDogBack]

11. someone hit de nail on de head

[Sarah Ibarruri]

13. Let's make a list of advertisers and get a group together to write them that we're boycotting....

... I think a website might be nice.

[femrap]

28. I think the progressives should pick

a couple of big, fat corporations and go after them with all we have....I pick GE ('the company that brings you never ending war') and Monsanto ('the sperm killers')

If the American public knew what these companies really do, they'd never buy another GE dishwasher or Round-Up.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

31. Brilliant idea. Let's pick 1 corporation and go after it with all our might.....

.... complete boycott, for starters.

[femrap]

35. GE would be the most fun...

they have NBC and all of those cable channels filled with crap. We'd need to find out who are the top advertisers on NBC....and then boycott them if they decide to keep spending their advertising $$ there.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

41. So let's do that. They benefited from leaving Kucinich out of the debate...

... they intend to hide the truth from the voters, of course.

My problem is I don't know how to create a website, or I'd create a BOYCOTT GE website. Anyone here know?

[Triana]

20. you got it - they control the government AND the media. want to change that...

..vote Edwards (since they shut out Kucinich and are TRYING to shut out Edwards, too).

They like Hillary and Obama 'cause they take their money and corprats know they will get their quid-pro-quo from those two. Not so with Kucinich and Edwards.

[Freddie Stubbs]

62. The Nevada Supreme Court

[uppityperson]

8. oh damn those liberal judges!

[David Zephyr]

10. Anyone who thinks that corporations don't run this country and own the courts is crazy.

How can a candidate, an elected congressional figure who was the only candidate who voted against the stupid war in Iraq who is on the ballots in across the nation and qualified to be on those ballots be denied participation in the goddamn debates.

Why even have an election?

:argh:

[Triana]

26. They run this country (gov't), control the courts, AND they own ALL of the media..

...why bother having elections, indeed.

Why not just let Rupert fucking Murdoch choose our next president. Appears that's what's happening anyway.

[2rth2pwr]

33. You have an Edwards avatar, isn't he the one who has been advocating

for winnowing the debate field?

[David Zephyr]

59. I agree.

The corporate media is selecting our candidates. We are wasting out time.

[Glimmer of Hope]

12. Oh no.

[madrchsod]

14. why do our "canidates" go on with this farce?

dennis was right wasn`t he --that`s to those here that thought he was a joke--the jokes on you now...

we have been had

[countmyvote4real]

15. This is not right.

And yet I'm not surprised. This is exactly why he needs to be a voice in these debates.

[mike_c]

16. damn-- the court supported media manipulation of the election....

I read the order and I realize that's not what the court decided, but that's the effect of the decision. More media manipulation of who and what the American people will be allowed to hear from political candidates. Shame on NBC!

[xiamiam]

47. so reminiscent of the pit in my stomach during the supreme court fiasco in 2000..

[xiamiam]

17. anyone who thinks this is ok is full of crap...another nail in our coffin..

i feel the same pit in my stomach as when the supreme court stole the 2000 election..because this time, its the msm..msnbc and abc to be exact..its the same bullshit...just different players...

[xiamiam]

18. and i watch keith..love keith...but this is wrong..and i may have to boycott..damn..nt

[madrchsod]

19. who`s responsible for the lawsuit in the first place?

[Nictuku]

21. Another MSM bites the dust....

I just de-programmed my DVR from recording Countdown and Abrams Report. I won't be watching them any longer.

[xiamiam]

37. just sent this to letters at msnbc for olbermann..im so disgusted..

I sure do hope this gets to you..I've been a supporter..since the early days when no one knew who you were..and you were interesting..but then you became bold..and I stayed a supporter and wrote emails to msnbc and everyone else.

You've been great..but today I am disappointed..so very heartsick. One quick mention last evening about Dennis Kucinich and the lawsuit with MSNBC and the same tonight. This is so wrong. How can the media determine after just the Iowa primary and the New Hampshire primary who can debate. Whether I agree with him or not, Dennis Kucinich has every right to be at the debate this evening. It is not a decision of the media. The media is ultimately determining who are candidates are. You don't really believe that is democratic? You couldn't. You just couldn't.

While I'm at it..Why no mention of Sibel Edmonds? Is this not the story of the last decade?

What's happening Keith? I don't have another journalist whom I trust for legitimate news. Please dont be a part of the problem. Please.

[Whisp]

22. free country, my hairy ass. :(

[FrenchieCat]

24. this is fucked.

:mad:

[caligirl]

25. Itds time to challenge this on up the court system. DK should

look into going on with the court challenges as a matter of election fairness.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

29. The media is the enemy

I agree that Kucinich didn't have much of a chance. But should a private corporation have the power to make that decision? That slippery slope is what bothers me. What if next time, they start eliminating candidates after one or two debates, according to the opinions of their own hired talking heads? Once a candidate qualifies, the choice to continue in the debate should be his or hers to make as a matter of principle and not left to the programming director of a network.

[xiamiam]

45. what do you mean, 'what if the next time"..what do you think they are doing now?nt

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

51. The next time they may immediately start excluding candidates before any debate

Who knows what they can do next time, when they seem to exercise absolute authority over who gets to address America and don't have any stated criteria? What if at the start of the next campaign season they just conduct an internal poll and only allow the two frontrunners to participate? How will that make any more or less sense than their decision to exclude Kucinich? They seem to follow purely subjective standards that only they know. They shouldn't be allowed this kind of absolute power.

[Whisp]

30. Dennis should try to crash it!

even if it gets him tased.

[mirrera]

32. Why Why Why are our Democratic Candidates not BOYCOTTING???

What a message Edwards could have about corporate control! The missed moment really hurts. It feels like Kerry conceding. This is not a debate, it is show horses on display. An infomercial.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

38. The network wants a boxing match - purely to increase ratings

They shouldn't have this power because any network, due to its concerns with ratings has reasons other than to benefit and serve the people. Above all, they serve their owner's shareholders. They have an ulterior motive involved in this and are not in the position of an honest broker. The networks, including news departments (they've now become part of the entertainment division) have creative development meetings where they actually discuss how they can inject more conflict and drama into news coverage to make it more exciting and thereby increase advertising revenues. It's ridiculous. It's clear that the networks want to eliminate the candidates to two sides and it's not for reasons that benefit democracy.

[redqueen]

34. Oh well...no more reason for MSNBC to be the lone exception.

No more tv news at all for me.

[subsuelo]

36. of course he loses

this country is not a democracy

what they say goes

Understood?

[Desertrose]

39. I am so disgusted.

Come Feb 6 I am no longer gonna be a Dem.

[AnOhioan]

40. After I cast my vote for Dennis in my primary...

no promises for the general election. I gotta say, it is not looking good.

[origin1286]

42. The district court did not have jurisdiction

You may not like the ruling but it is a correct interpretation of the law.

[xiamiam]

43. it is not the right of the msm to determine who can debate after just two primary elections

[origin1286]

44. Maybe not

But it is within their right as a private entity.

[xiamiam]

46. for a public debate for the highest elected office in a democracy?..stinks imo..nt

[origin1286]

48. It's not a public debate necessarily

Well I mean yeah it's going to be shown to the public but it's hosted by a private entity.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

49. It's a dangerous slippery slope

What criteria did they use this time to eliminate Kucinich? Was it determined by a specific number of votes he had to receive? Or a specific amount of support? Will they make that criteria, which probably results from a programming decision public? What if next time, they decide who can debate after just one or two polls, their own internal polls. If there are no established criteria and it is just a seat of the pants programming decision, there are no standards and its all arbitrary and discretionary. I think we need laws that force the networks to give free air time to each qualifying candidate, the way they do in the democracies in Europe. The air waves belong to the people and the corporations only rent them as a privilege accorded by the people.

[origin1286]

50. Treading on dangerous territories

Having the government make rules that tell the media what they can and can't do would be a very dangerous precedent to set.

It is arbitrary. It's their network.

Doesn't make it right, but it's how it is.

Just have government sponsored debates with the participants picked by a bipartisan committee.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

52. No really. The Fairness doctrine required the media to be fair in its news coverage

pursuant to the fact that the air waves do not belong to networks. They don't. They belong to the American people.

[origin1286]

55. We can see how well that has worked out

Just ask Edwards supporters.

If the government tries to tell the networks what to do, the networks can just say "fine, we won't host/pay for it."

And voila, no debates.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

56. They should be forced to pay, they way the are in Europe

European democracies in my opinion work much, much better than democracy in America. There is a much more direct and complete representation of political leanings in their governments than we see in America.

The Fairness Doctrine worked extremely well. It was Reagan and the extreme right wing that did away with it. The result is the lying and fraud that goes on with so-called news networks like Fox News.

[Freddie Stubbs]

60. Other groups are free to hold their own debates

MoveOn.org, Progressive Democrats of American, Code Pink, or even DU can sponsor debates.

But they did not.

[Thrill]

53. Its amazing how bad they want him out of it

I don't get that

[Raine]

54. This sucks

it's really so unfair. :mad:

[goodgd_yall]

57. Nevada is a red state in its soul.

It's Supreme Court stinks.

[no name no slogan]

58. Boycott NBC

Turn the channel. Turn off Tweety.

And tell NBC why.

[OneBlueSky]

61. from start to finish, the game is rigged . . .

if you think we have "free elections" in this country, think again . . . the powers that be will get who and what they want every time -- and there isn't a damned thing you or I can do about it . . .