Edwards Pakistan phone call?

[Renew Deal]

Lets got back to this a second. Edwards said that he never actually talked to Musharaf and talked to the person at the embassy.

Edit: It appears that Edwards did not mislead, though I will be checking this out later. I'm changing the subject in deference to the Edwards people.

[CC]

No he said he never called

Musharaf but called the Pakistan Ambassador in DC. Musharaf called him back.

[patrice]

3. Correct. nt

[robbedvoter]

11. What's the difference? he asked to speak to Musharaff - and he did.

Are the details on how the call was placed changing anything? he called the murdered, legitimized him. as for the tough talk...yeah, right.

[sandnsea]

1. I didn't hear him say that

I heard him say he didn't call Musharaf, he called the ambassador to see if there was anything he could do. If memory serves, Musharaf then called him, or they hooked up somehow after that.

[1corona4u]

2. That's not what he said in the past..

From NBC/NJ’s Tricia Miller
DECORAH, Iowa -- Edwards spoke in Waukon this afternoon about having calls in to Pakistan’s President Pervez Musharraf. Then, at his second event in Decorah, he told Iowans that he got his call returned.

“He called me,” Edwards said, “because I told the ambassador I’d like to speak to him. I met him a few years ago, which I think I told you earlier, and we had a conversation in which I urged him to continue the democratization process. He told me, he gave me his assurances that he intended to do that, and we also spoke about having international independent investigators allowed into the country for transparency purposes, for credibility purposes, and we spoke briefly about the elections.”

Edwards is the only candidate to have said publicly that he received a call from Musharraf today. Edwards did not join in the fight between rivals Clinton and Obama over which candidate has the best foreign policy advisers, and asked what this conversation does for his own foreign policy credibility, Edwards referred back to the complexity of the issue.

“I think that the most important thing is to understand what’s actually happening within Pakistan, the complex nature of the problems there, and to be visionary about what America needs to be doing,” he told reporters.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/27/535768.aspx

[hlthe2b]

15. No inconsistency whatsoever. He said he did not call Musharef

directly, but rather via the ambassador, relaying a desire to talk with him.

Get a grip folks... I don't care which candidate you support, but misrepresenting any of them pisses me off.

[1corona4u]

19. I just posted what he said...

no attitude needed.

[hlthe2b]

26. The OP calls one of our candidates a liar after misrepresenting

what he said... Others here piled on. Attitude is appropriate and I (and others) WILL call out Dems who use such tactics. I don't care who you support. You don't get to call another candidate a "liar" when a misrepresentation is used to make the argument.

[1corona4u]

29. So then address it to the OP, not me.

[hlthe2b]

31. I thought you were agreeing with the OP in your posting..

Perhaps I misunderstood your reply and if so, my apologies. :toast:

[mtnsnake]

4. I wasn't quite following him. It sounded like he was talking hypothetically

like mentioning the things he would have said, had he talked to him, but by the time he ended his answer, it sounded like he was saying he did talk to him and say those things. I'm still not sure.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. No, he didn't. Why do you ask?

In fact, he did talk to Musharraf. He called the embassy, talked to an embassy employee, and Musharraf called him back. This was reported all over the place right after it happened.

[Renew Deal]

7. I think he mislead people on that.

But we need a transcript. His story was that he called Musharraf IIRC.

[itsrobert]

12. That was not the story

but, nice try.

[Orangepeel]

16. read the old article in post #2

exactly the same thing he said tonight

[hlthe2b]

17. What bullshit... Disagree with any of the candidates on

substantive issues, not petty misrepresentations. This is really ridiculous.

[itsrobert]

8. Correct; Edwards bashers just hearing what they want to hear

thanks

[OzarkDem]

23. Russert phrased it as if Edwards called Musharraf directly

and Edwards explained it clearly. He had met and talked to Musharraf years before and wanted to talk to him about what was going on.

[robbedvoter]

6. He started by saying that, then he moved to what he allegedly told Musharaf

Sounded extremely phony to me too.

[hlthe2b]

9. No. What he said was that he did not specifically call Musharef,

directly, but rather called the ambassador and let him know he would like to convey a message to Musharef. Musharef, however DID call him back (to Edward's surprise, I suspect). He has been consistent in relaying the facts of this, if you will listen to him.

I am uncommitted to either of the three, but feel the need to correct misinterpretations and often blatant misrepresentations. I have and will continue to do so for any of the leading candidates.

[Auntie Bush]

10. Sounds like that was a cya answer.

Why would he deliberately explain that he didn't call Musharaf?

[Orangepeel]

13. Oh, he did not say that! Read the responses to you in the other thread

Tim asked him if it was "appropriate" for him to call Musarraf. He said that he called the ambassador, said that he knew Musharaf and wanted to talk to him and Musharaf called him back. He then spoke to Musharaf.

The only reason for brining in the ambassador is because of Tim's question. Edwards was pointing out he went through an official channel rather than calling Musharef's home number or something.

He was quite clear that he actually talked to Musharef.

[Renew Deal]

21. I feel like Edwards was being misleading about it in the past.

I have to look it up and I will.

[Orangepeel]

22. start with the link in post #2

From December 27

“He called me,” Edwards said, “because I told the ambassador I’d like to speak to him. I met him a few years ago, which I think I told you earlier, and we had a conversation in which I urged him to continue the democratization process. He told me, he gave me his assurances that he intended to do that, and we also spoke about having international independent investigators allowed into the country for transparency purposes, for credibility purposes, and we spoke briefly about the elections.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/27/535768.aspx

[ChiciB1]

14. He DID NOT SAY THAT!! He Said He Called Representative & Got

a call back, then went on to state WHAT HE SAID TO MUSHARAF!

[pettypace]

18. M-U-S-H-A-R-R-A-F

President of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.

[OzarkDem]

20. Russert lied about the phone call

Edwards stood up to him and refused to let him put words in his mouth. It was a nasty trick question and Edwards, trial attorney that he is, handled it very well.

Russert's trick didn't work.

[Orangepeel]

24. Thank you for changing the subject line

you are still trying to make something negative out of absolutely nothing, but I appreciate you toning it down.

[Renew Deal]

25. I'm not at all.

I really want to get it sorted out. I think Edwards may have been misleading in the past, but there's also way too much information to keep track of.

[Orangepeel]

27. did you read what he said in the story in post #2?

He said the same thing in December. He called the ambassador, said he wanted to speak to Musharref, and Musharref called him back.

I'm an Edwards supporter (although if you searched, you'd find me defending each of the candidates from what I consider to be erroneous information at some time or another).

But anyway, I appreciate you dialing it back.

[Renew Deal]

28. Yes, that's why I changed the subject.

I just want to check it out some more.

[venable]

30. he called musharaf. musharaf called back. they talked. nt