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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:29 PM
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"I'm the leader of the Democratic party and I'm taking on Bush!!"
Tweety says this is what HRC said tonight. "Acting like the nominee already!" he says.

Did ANYbody else see it that way??
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yourout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:30 PM
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1. If you say so Tweety.
The Borg are back......"resistance is futile"
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:31 PM
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2. lol, no
I saw her as playing terror terror terror, getting lost in the minutia, and the air going out of her half way through the debate. She started out fairly well, but just lost it somewhere along the line.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:32 PM
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3. No--dammit, we're not running against Bush this year. McCain is
smarter than Bush, so is Romney, and hucky is a more charming version of Bush. I don't mind her crapping on Chimpy, but to say that it makes her Presidential is silly.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:33 PM
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5. It's his way of saying she's "arrogant" and "calculating," I believe. nt
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:40 PM
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9. He sounds like he's impressed with her performance
and he'll probably admit that she won the debate. But he will shortly resume his normal ass-hattery.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:49 PM
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17. Or maybe he was told to make nice because all the letters from viewers
he'll be back to his demented self tomorrow
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:38 PM
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8. Oh, but we are running against Bush. That is exactly how we want to frame it.
We should run nothing but pictures of the opposing candidate with Bush. If it's McCain, we should play the Bush/McCain hug video every ten minutes.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:48 PM
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15. Exactly. i was dreaming of a crowd with signs of that hug - a sea of signs...
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:11 AM
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27. Bingo
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:51 PM
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19. I wish I had the "hug" photo ready - McCain is an older, more senile Bush
a neocon tool like Bush.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:32 PM
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4. He's trying to save his job.
He's a scumbag.
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Connie_Corleone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:33 PM
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6. Why would she take on Bush when he's not running again?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:46 PM
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13. Because everyone hates him, the GOP-ers run away from him - associating
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 11:47 PM by robbedvoter
them with Bush gives her the "never again" voters
She will run against Bush's record - because they want to continue his mistakes.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:23 AM
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35. Because she will not let the GOP candidates put any distance
between the failed Bush administration and themselves.The GOP owns this 8 year disaster.Who ever gets the Dem nomination,if it's not Clinton,would be wise to do the same.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:35 PM
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7. If Tweety said anything that was accurate tonight
it was just by coincidence.

He talks so much that he's bound to say something right once in a while.

But to get to your question more specifically, no, I didn't see it that way. Tweety is an idiot who will say anything just to hear himself talk.
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Invidious Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:43 PM
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10. I'll be told AGAIN to leave DU but...
If HRC is nom..I'm staying home in NOV. She's just THAT lame to me.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:47 PM
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14. We need votes in your state. Snap out of it. nt
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:16 AM
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28. Is that you KKKarl?
Be gone with ye! No welcome from me.
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Invidious Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:24 AM
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29. What does that even mean?
I'm just trying to talk about my hesitation for the '08 election. And I'm KKKrove?
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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:35 AM
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30. That should have been KKKarl.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:38 AM by Auntie Bush
I guess I had better go to bed.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:37 AM
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31. Don't forget to mope
while you're at it...
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Invidious Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:45 AM
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34. I get your sarcasm..I was making a point too..
HRC's backers are petty and mean..and thanks for backing that up..:-)
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:44 PM
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11. Taking on Bush, McCain - sounded like a GE strategy. I LOVED IT!!!!
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 11:45 PM by robbedvoter
I posted here before - I want our candidates to go against THEM instead of each other. She did it - that's why - for me - she won hands down!
Obama was pretty good except 2 things:
calling Bush efficient
the thingy about running the bureaucracy being beneath him - and having "people" to do it for him - was a bit elitist and ..W-like.
Except for those, i liked everything he said.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:46 PM
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12. She looked confident.
I thought Barak was a little less confident than in the debate in Iowa. I did not see the NH debate. But Barak had his strong moments too. And Edwards had some strong moments in the first half, I thought he was less effective in the second half.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:49 PM
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16. She took it to the GOP, so yeah
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:50 PM
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18. Criticizing Bush is hardly an innovative move.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:52 PM
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21. Maybe not, but she was the only one tonight doing it - and did it well
I was so hungry for one of ours to stop internecine bickering and take it to BFEE! She won big points with me tonight (still undecided...)
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:57 PM
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24. It was good that she did it, but that's not the point of things now

I'm not in favor of internecine bickering either. But I do believe it's important for them to offer something to allow for comparisons between them. ANY Democrat is going to be criticizing Bush in the General Election. That's an Apple Pie position in the Democratic Party.

What's important now is knowing what they want to do in a proactive sense, compared to the other potential nominees.

It's kind of a cop-out for her to state the obvious at this point.



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Blue Congress Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:52 PM
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20. She's the leader??
She's the type of politician that we have been fighting against, enabling Bush every step of the way.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:53 PM
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22. Leader my ass!! Ok so where the fu** have been for the last 6 years Hillary.?????
Edited on Tue Jan-15-08 11:55 PM by Perky
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dailykoff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:37 AM
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32. Exactamundo.
Hill would make a fine first lady. Obama will make a great president.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-15-08 11:55 PM
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23. It's a valid comment but he WAY over emphasized it
He was clearly trying to "spin" his way out of the sexism that has probably come close to having him lose his status at MSNBC.
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liskddksil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:02 AM
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25. Meanwhile in the real world
a focus group (on fox news of all places) with 3 Edwards leaners at the start went to 50% Edwards by the end
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:10 AM
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26. He said that about Obama last week n/t
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:45 AM
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33. Tweety's hyperbole again
He'll be back to "I hate Hillary" very soon.

She had a good debate tonight...they all did. But I don't think she dominated it. And ALL of them are "acting like the nominee already." That's what they DO.
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