Clinton puts up a Lobbyist to speak for her on MSNBC.

[TeamJordan23]

Nice one!

[eleny]

1. What a garbled mess that all was

Matthews couldn't juggle those three enough to provide a coherent discussion.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

2. Who says there's nothing wrong with lobbyists

[Connie_Corleone]

3. Well that was, uh, a poor choice.

[AX10]

4. Lame. Look at the Obamanistas.

WAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA!!
"It's not fair, it's not fair". "Why can't all you Hillary people just coronate Obama?"
:rofl:

[Renew Deal]

6. Can't you ever admit that Hillary did something wrong?

This is wrong.

[aquart]

10. Can you ever admit she did something right?

Can you ever admit Obama is less that shining, glorious perfection?

Please.

[Auntie Bush]

12. I was going to ask the same question.

[Renew Deal]

16. Sure, she was right to apologize for her bankruptcy bill vote.

Now, answer my question. Can you admit Hillary did something wrong.

[AX10]

11. Can't the Obamites admit that Obama is not perfect...

and be willing to point out flaws rather than stay stuck in this scary trance all of you are in?

[Renew Deal]

17. I asked you first.

So can you?

[Connie_Corleone]

18. There was a whole thread earlier today where Obama supporters

pointed out where they disagreed with him or he made mistakes. You must've missed it.

[niceypoo]

30. How many threads are there where Obama supporters actually tout Obama?

Very, very few. They believe that endlessly attacking Hillary somehow makes Obama seem taller, but all it does is make them look bitter.

[cali]

27. you guys are really full of it.

An Obama supporter started a thread today asking where you thought Obama was wrong. It got dozens of replies- including mine. Continue making shit up to feed your delusional narrative.

[Mass]

31. We can. There was a whole thread about that yesterday. However, you cannot accept that Hillary

Clinton is sometimes wrong.

[OHdem10]

5. I like Rodney Slater . He was in Pres. Clinton's Cabinet.

[Renew Deal]

8. I'm sure he's a great guy.

But campaigns using lobbyists as surrogates is unseemly at best.

[EffieBlack]

22. Why?

[Renew Deal]

24. Because those are the influence peddlers that pay for our government.

Individuals don't have access to Hillary the way a registered lobbyist does.

[EffieBlack]

29. How is Rodney Slater an "influence peddler" who is paying for our government?

Please be specific. What exactly has he done to pay off our government?

FYI - Rodney Slater has access to Hillary for reasons totally unrelated to lobbying. He has been a close friend and aide to the Clintons for more than 20 years, since was an up-and-coming young attorney in Arkansas. Governor Bill Clinton appointed him to be his Executive Assistant for Community and Minority Affairs in the 1980s. His exemplary performance and spotless reputation for integrity and hard work led him to several other appointments in Arkansas, including director of the Arkansas Highway Commission. When Clinton was elected president, he appointed Slater Federal Highway Commissioner and later Secretary of Transportation, a position he held with great distinction. He is one of the most highly respected people in public life.

So, smearing of this very decent man as an "influence peddler" who only has access to Hillary Clinton because he's a registered lobbyist is not only unfair, it's just flat out wrong.

I urge you and others to get their facts straight before sliming good people in order to take political swipes at canidates they don't support. It's just plain slimy.

[AtomicKitten]

7. I have nothing nice to say about Clinton.

in fact, she makes me want to yak

[AX10]

13. Obama makes want to do the same thing.

:puke:

[Auntie Bush]

14. I wonder if she knew you and your posts

if she'd had anything nice to say to you either?

[William769]

9. And Edwards and Obama put up people that are incoherent.

[durrrty libby]

19. haha They came off like they just crawled out of an all night bar

[durrrty libby]

15. Slater was the only intelligent one. Trippi and Axelrod looked like a couple

of dopes. Rodney outclassed them by far

[EffieBlack]

20. She put up the former Secretary of Transportation

who is an attorney at a law firm that engages in lobbying.

Being a lobbyist is not always necessarily a bad thing.

[Garbo 2004]

21. Patton Boggs info:

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Patton_Boggs
http://www.pattonboggs.com/about/Overview/
http://www.pattonboggs.com/About/Management/

A few names might be familiar:

Thomas Hale Boggs, Jr: http://www.pattonboggs.com/tboggs/ (son of Hale Boggs and brother to Cokie Roberts)
Robert Luskin: http://www.pattonboggs.com/rluskin/ (Reportedly a Dem, Rove's attorney in the Plame case, and reportedly a solicitous cat owner.)
Ben Ginsberg: http://www.pattonboggs.com/bginsberg/ (RNC and Bush/Cheney campaign counsel, involved in Florida 2000, legal adviser to Swift Boaters)

DC's a small world.

Firm info on Rodney Slater, partner: http://www.pattonboggs.com/rslater/

Practice areas:
Transportation & Infrrastructure: http://www.pattonboggs.com/Services/ServiceDetail.aspx?firmService=177
Public Policy & Lobbying: http://www.pattonboggs.com/Services/ServiceDetail.aspx?firmService=158
Homeland Security, Defense and Technology Transfer: http://www.pattonboggs.com/Services/ServiceDetail.aspx?firmService=42

[EffieBlack]

23. Interesting information, but . . .

You forgot to mention that the firm has more than 500 lawyers - interesting that you only mentioned three of them.

You also didn't mention that they do more than $12 million worth of pro bono work per year, including a substantial amount of discrimination cases that they do for free, or the free Katrina work they did, etc.

And although you only mentioned three areas of practice, they actually have more than 50 practice areas, including immigration, civil rights, housing, personal injury work (John Edwards' specialty), corporate diversity training, etc.


Shame on you for trying to sully Secretary Slater's reputation and integrity by skewing the nature of the firm for which he works.

[ClericJohnPreston]

25. Give me a break.....

You know nothing of law firms do you, except to spout meaningless statements as to practice areas.

It makes quite a difference that she exposed her vulnerability as the best candidate money can buy, Obama being second in line. Hillery Shillery has a for sale sign on her head, beaming loudly to all monied interests.

The same way I don't think Obama would stand up to Big Pharma ( he never answered Edwards question, directly ), Hillary takes more $$$$$ from EVERYONE.

If you want to believe that doesn't make her indebted to industries we are looking to bring under control, fine; only some of us are not that naive.

Jack Abramoff...ring a bell?

[EffieBlack]

28. Actually, I know quite a bit about law firms.

That's why I know why this post was grossly misleading.

For future reference, I do not post about anything on which I do not have direct knowledge. So you can assume that if I make a comment or observation, I know what I'm talking about, whether you agree with me or not.

[Garbo 2004]

26. I provided info, links & made no comment about Slater. You infer a slur, I just thought the info was

interesting. The links to their site are there if anyone's interested. It's a big firm, with Dems & Repubs, & their work includes lobbying and litigation and they also do pro bono work, as many law firms do. I don't believe, however, that any dispassionate observer would mistake Patton Boggs for the ACLU or the Southern Poverty Law Center, for example.

The three areas of practice I listed are those that pertain specifically to Slater, according to their site. Which is why I listed them immediately under his name.

And the three individuals I noted were people I recognized in their mgt team. TH Boggs is the son of a well known Dem political family in their day. You have an issue with that? Luskin, a Dem, was indeed Rove's lawyer. Ginsberg is of course Ginsberg. Lanny Davis used to be a partner at Patton Boggs also, FWIW. But I wasn't going to go through their whole roster of staff. If there's anyone else interesting there, feel free to post.

[Evergreen Emerald]

32. Obama's campaign manager and Edward's campaign manager

were so outclassed, I just laughed. They looked like they had been sleeping in an alley before they came on. They appeared whinny. I have had great respect for the secretary. And he did not disappoint.

Lobbyists: EVERYONE has lobbyists. Teachers, Union members, lawyers, (who are paying millions to Edwards), victim advocates, groups of citizens who get together to attempt to present their side of an issue.

This whole "lobbyists are devils" is political spin.

[Renew Deal]

33. You're happy that your candidate is using a federally registered lobbyist as a spokeperson?

At least we know who's bought and paid for Hillary.