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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:15 AM
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I wasn't going to do this this evening but screw it!
Some people want to be assholes tonight then so be it. This is what the Majority of Americans are seeing, they are NOT seeing DU.

Press release.


Hillary's Reviews Are In: 'So Strong,' 'Turned It On,' 'Very Successful'
MSNBC's Chris Matthews - Hillary was 'so strong tonight... she's playing on the varsity team' "She behaved as if she won the Democratic nomination already. That those two partners with her tonight were her adjutants, her allies already. She has won it. She was so strong tonight in skipping past the intramurals to the varsity. She's playing on the varsity team tonight... attack on the president was so dramatic, so powerful, referring to his pathetic effort to try to jawbone the prices down by the middle east oil potentates, made the president look small tonight. She was running as his stronger successor, I might put it, tonight. It was powerful stuff and I wonder if these guys were ready for it. I don't think they were, to take her on tonight, Keith. I thought it was a strong performance tonight. Something else to watch."

Reno Gazette Journal's Anjeanette Damon - HRC ‘seizes on the moment' on Yucca Mountain. "The Inevitable Yucca Mountain question is broached: Hillary Clinton seizes on the moment to go after both Barack Obama, pointing out that he has taken large campaign contributions from the nuclear industry in his state, and John Edwards, pointing out that he voted in favor of the project before turning against it."

NBC News' Andrea Mitchell - Hillary 'had passion' gave a ‘very successful' performance. "Well the strategy was clearly to run against Bush and by doing that she becomes the presumptive leader among these people. She was very forceful and I think effective and not in a strident way when she talked about the urgency of the mortgage crisis because she had detailed information, she had passion about it, but it wasn't a grading thing, it was really a strong, forceful presentation. I thought that was very successful."

NBC News' Chuck Todd - 'Clinton is ' the candidate who is saying all the right things.' "Clinton is proving to be the candidate who is saying all the right things as far as Nevada is concerned."

ABC News' Rick Klein - When the debate ‘turned to substance' Hillary 'turned it on,' show 'depth and range.' "On energy, an overall strong performance by Clinton. As soon as this debate turned to substance, she's turned it on...Clinton is answering the questions on the economy with depth and range"

ABC News' David Wright - Hillary got 'the better' of Obama. "Seems like the only debate so far is over whether Obama's messy desk is a sign that he's not up to the job. Obama arguing he has vision, but needs staff to handle the...Clinton did seem to get the better of him...Not surprising he should lose that round."

The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder - Hillary 'got the better of an exchange on Yucca Mountain.' "Clinton got the better of an exchange on Yucca Mountain, making sure to drive home the point that John Edwards twice voted in favor of the nuclear waste repository."

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=5229


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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:16 AM
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1. Each candidate will do have one of these, you know that.
Right?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:17 AM
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2. Yes I do.
But we have the Debate and sound bites to back it up also. I was trying to supportive of all Candidates this evening, But it seems like several people don't want no part ot that.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:21 AM
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9. Don't pay too much attention to them.
All of them did very well. I feel Obama won, you probably think Hillary did, but in the end they all did well. Nobody hurt himself/herself tonight.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:23 AM
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13. Every Obama supporter should be like you Katz.
You could teach them a thing or two.
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avrdream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:58 AM
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27. That's what I think too.
Katz, you rock!

Regarding the OP: I find it unusual that both Chris Matthews and Andrea Mitchell said positive things about Clinton. That is wierd to me and just reinforces our belief that the media is trying to influence this. (And I support HRC.)

Thanks William - you should just say "fuck it" more often.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:23 AM
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14. As I have stated in two other threads this evening, I think all 3 won
I even congratulated Jefferson_Dem on a endorsement. But when people want to pile on the shit I'm just not going to sit here and take it.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:30 AM
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21. all Hillary has is sound bytes
She talks and talks but says nothing. Like a good Salesman.

Obama talks straight. The American People can see this.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:32 AM
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22. Yes they can and they keep speaking.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:18 AM
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3. Relax. I'm starting to. There's a long way to go, for everyone.
:D
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:18 AM
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4. DO IT! William769 , DO IT!
This is not a hit against Skinner and Earlg. DU is open to all Democrats. However, the left wing elitist base has been attracted to this website. They are very dominant around here. They live in a bubble where everyone thinks just like them. They are very similar to the neo-cons who think that the entire world wants to be just like the US. That's how it is. The reality is that the world will see something very different. They will see a clear win for Hillary int he debate. They will see Edwards in a similar light.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:18 AM
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5. Just curious? Do the republicans own the media? Yep they do.
Does Mr. Murdock like Hillary. Yep he does.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:19 AM
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7. And what does America see?
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 12:20 AM by William769
Yep thats right.
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:19 AM
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6. Can you believe it Billy?
Tweety AND Andrea Mitchell heaping praise on Our Girl La Presidenta...

kickin'
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:21 AM
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8. Hillary gave a one of the best debates ever this evening, what choice did they have?
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desi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:25 AM
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15. What a difference from the past week with them
ragging on her. Think she wins Nevada? I sure do...
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:27 AM
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18. After this evening, If I was a betting man I would put it on Hillary.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:21 AM
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10. Josh Marshall - Talking Points Memo
How Did It Go?
I'm happy to discount Chris Matthews's viewpoint and certainly Tim Russert's. But even Keith Olbermann seemed to agree that Hillary had somehow dominated the debate and treated the other candidates as they were already defeated opponents.

I thought she did fine. Don't get me wrong. But that's completely not the debate I saw.

What did you see?

--Josh Marshall

I'm with Josh.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:25 AM
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17. Josh Marshall has discredited himself...
by running with the "the Clinton's are racists" memo.
Maybe Marshall should try to become the next Drudge.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:53 AM
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24. Yep, He jumped the shark with the rest of the Distortionist Contortionists
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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:21 AM
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11. What is ultimately to be reduced
must first be expanded
What is ultimately to be weakened
must first be made strong
What is ultimately to be discarded
must first be embraced
What is ultimately to be taken away
must first be given.
This is called subtle insight.

Lao Tzu
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:22 AM
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12. I don't know what the problem is.
Some DUers are such assholes toward our Democratic candidates.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:27 AM
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19. Maybe some DUers
believe in democracy?
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:28 AM
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20. Believing in democracy causes one to act like assholes?
I don't think so.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:32 AM
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23. Depends on what you mean by asshole-sish behavior
IMHO, wanting all voices to be heard is not asshole-ish behavior.
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fadedrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:25 AM
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16. Matthews probably got in hot water
The other day he was SO critical of HRC - there was a video at DU somewhere showing Matthews. He probably got warned to shape up so he's kissing up. Maybe somebody remembers and post the link.

Edwards mentioned some thing about papers concerning Yucca Mtn. Lying or something, anybody know what's behind that?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:16 AM
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26. I think most everyone at MSNBC got the meme, including Andrea.
Hmmm. Yucca, I'll have to check.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:55 AM
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25. She was excellent Billy K & R
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:46 AM
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29. Yep, Hillary led, the others followed..
No matter how people try,they can't stop Hillary's light from shining. She does it innately because it's really her. Believe me when I say, she is a gifted woman, who's life's work is the result of the woman we are seeing now.

Bill has to be very proud of her performance tonight. I would venture even he is awestruck by the care, poise and confidence she exhibited tonight.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:11 AM
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28. Is this all signalling
that big corps want her over obama? We know they fear edws.
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DDQ Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:01 AM
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30. Hillary was impressive
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:58 AM
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31. You can only hope that most people, like me, turn it off when debate is over.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 07:01 AM by mnhtnbb
I could give a rat's a$$ what these pundits have to say. FOX showed clip of their focus audience
raising hands for an Edwards' win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lSD6xeU9eA
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