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Ketcham Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:35 AM
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MSNBC "hates substance"?
Did anyone catch the disembodied voice 12-ish minutes into Olbermann's show that said "We hate substance"? One of their commentators was talking about how refreshing it was that the debate had a lot of discussion of substance, then a female voice, louder than the commentator, said "We hate substance." Someone in the control room or what? If someone can post video, that would be great. I have it on my DVR, but I'd have to point my camera at my TV screen to get it onto my computer.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:36 AM
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1. LOL!!
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:46 AM
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2. YEP....so says The Nation, too.
Worsening Economy Gives Obama and Hillary a Chance to Copy Edwards' Populist Ideas

By William Greider, TheNation.com
Posted on January 14, 2008, Printed on January 15, 2008
http://www.alternet.org/story/73640/

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My advice to Barack Obama: look through the John Edwards file -- he got there first -- and borrow freely from his sound ideas for economic stimulus. Then double or triple Edwards' numbers to show your sincerity. Do this fast. Hillary Clinton is already out of the box with a plan the New York Times describes as the first from any Democratic candidates.

Wrong. John Edwards was out front with aggressive anti-recession proposals in early December. Act now, he said, don't wait for the official announcement. First, Congress should put up at least $25 billion to stimulate job creation and be ready to spend another $75 billion as things get worse. Spend the money on "clean energy" infrastructure, the housing crisis, reform of unemployment insurance, aid programs to help families get through hard times and other wounds. Get the money out to the folks who will spend it right now and to public works projects that can create new jobs quickly.

Nothing fancy in the Edwards package, just the old-fashioned, meat-and-potato politics that used to make Democrats the party of working people.

...

Edwards, alas, probably restrained the size of his stimulus package to convince the media gatekeepers he is not wacko and thus win some coverage for his forward thinking. No such luck. Edwards has his own shortcomings, but he has been victimized by the shallow political culture that empties meaning from presidential campaigns. The press early on consigned him to the "populist" stereotype and largely ignored the serious content of his agenda.

This is the curse that leads to enervating, brain-dead presidential cycles. Substance bores political reporters. Most of them do not understand economics or even know much about how government actually works. Given their ignorance, they prefer to play the role of theater critics and imagine that readers are desperate to hear their highly subjective and utterly unreliable reviews of the sideshow.

MORE at link
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lisainmilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:56 AM
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4. He sure does take alot of notes as Edwards speaks...Has anyone
else noticed that.. I wonder what the heck is he doing....writing down lines...for his next speech????
I wonder....it's strange.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:58 AM
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5. writing down what Edwards says so he can reword it and reuse it?
Maybe. Seems he and Hillary do the same thing (not take notes, necessarily but copy Edwards's themes).

He's clearly leading them, if not in polls than at least in direction on the issues.
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NastyRiffraff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 12:47 AM
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3. Doesn't surprise me at all
They (the MSM) DO hate substance.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 06:38 AM
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6. Possibly it was meant to be a cynical comment?
From someone not on camera at the time? Like Rachel Maddow?
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