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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:41 AM
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Reuters: Obama, Clinton tied in 2008 Democratic Race
No numbers cited, and no link yet on Zogby.)
Reuters
Wednesday, January 16, 2008; 8:46 AM

Obama, Clinton tied in 2008 Democratic race

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Barack Obama has erased a once substantial deficit to climb into a virtual tie with Hillary Clinton in the Democratic presidential race, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday. Among Republicans, John McCain charged to the front of a shifting presidential field, shooting past Mike Huckabee and a fading Rudy Giuliani as the opening contests of the 2008 White House campaign dramatically reshaped the races in both parties.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/16/AR2008011600294.html

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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:42 AM
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1. Good news, but after NH.. i sorta liked him behind by a few points. :) NT
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:11 AM
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12. Sorry it's 39-38 Clinton now, in the same poll she used to lead by 21 points.
Blacks have shifted big-time to Obama
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:43 AM
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2. Dream on.
Obama has great charm and appeal but Hillary is much more prepared and competent.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:45 AM
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3. "much more competent" - based on what?
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:48 AM
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5. Fact !
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RoadRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:47 AM
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4. Umm.. how does this relate to the OP - which was about Poll numbers?
:eyes:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:51 AM
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6.  her health care plan worked out well
Didn't it?

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:54 AM
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7. By the GOP comments - this seems like an old poll/assessment. Romney won
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 09:55 AM by robbedvoter
last night - why is McCain surging then?

That's not to say I don't think either Obama or Clinton can win for the democrats.
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OnTheOtherHand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:55 AM
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8. 39/38, here:
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 09:56 AM by OnTheOtherHand
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN1554681020080116?sp=true

Interesting, but just one poll.

ETA: fielded last Thu and Fri
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:57 AM
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9. The numbers...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/16/AR2008011600910.html

Clinton, a former first lady who would be the first woman U.S. president, held a 21-point edge over Obama in October. He cut that to 8 points by last month, and the new survey gave her a 39 percent to 38 percent edge.

Her 1-point lead was well within the poll's margin of error of 4.7 percentage points.

Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, and Clinton were essentially deadlocked among a variety of groups, including men, women, Democrats and independents. Obama led substantially, 65 percent to 15 percent, among black voters.

Obama barely led among voters under age 24, a substantial drop in support from last month, but led Clinton among voters aged 55 to 69, normally one of her strengths.

'UNBELIEVABLY CLOSE'

"This is an unbelievably close race at almost every level," Zogby said.

Former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards, the only other major Democratic contender still in the race, was a distant third at 9 percent in the national poll.



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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:04 AM
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10. Make it hold
Make it hold
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:09 AM
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11. It Looks Like An Outlier But Please Enjoy It
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:12 AM
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13. Clinton name recognition goes poof.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:13 AM
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14. Too Bad Zogby Is An Outlier
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:14 AM
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15. Let's hope it's not. Viva Obama.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:17 AM
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16. Besides Being An Outlier Zogby's Recent Track Record Is So Stellar, Ergo:
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:18 AM
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17. Zogby knows this will affect averages by such as RCP and Pollster.com.
Zogby is a smart but tricky pollster. I will wait for a few more polls and then average by first throwing out the highest and the lowest and average the remaining numbers.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:22 AM
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19. Here's A Good Discussion Of Zogby
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:20 AM
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18. They're all 'outliers' at this point.
A recent CNN poll showed Clinton leading by pretty big margins, which disheartened me a bit as an Obama supporter. But I also knew not to take it too seriously at this point, and this poll confirms that. I won't take this one too seriously either.

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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 11:28 AM
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20. The Rasmussen poll had them 5 points apart, so not an outlier
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