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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:22 PM
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Will Gore endorse?
On Larry King last night the possibility was raised of Gore coming out with an endorsement. If he does, who do you think it will be for, and why?

And maybe more importantly: would a Gore endorsement count for anything?
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:23 PM
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1. I thought he said recently that he won't endorse
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 01:34 PM by rox63
Edit to remove the air of certainty this post previously had. :blush:
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:24 PM
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2. really? do you have a link?
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:26 PM
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4. I'll have to go digging, but I'll try to come up with it n/t
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:33 PM
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9. Ok, I may be wrong on this
I could swear I heard it, but I can't find a link to back it up.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:25 PM
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3. There's been a rumor floating around that...
Kerry, Gore and Kennedy were all going with Obama ~ so far, the part about Kerry was true. Who knows?
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:27 PM
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5. doubt kennedy would go for obama
That would be huge news.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:27 PM
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6. A joint 3-way endorsement would have been THE coolest thing ever n/t
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:28 PM
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7. No Nukes = Edwards.
Yes, nuclear power plants are supposed to produce less carbon emissions, but I've never heard anything about how much carbon is produced by the economic stimuli that are created by nuclear power plants.

And of course, then there's all of the carbon associated with storing nuclear wastes.

And none of that even touches the financial burden on the middle-class associated with building and subsidizing nuclear power plants. (Resulting in an over-reliance on credit which also stimulates the production of carbon dioxide.)
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:32 PM
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8. uh
"I've never heard anything about how much carbon is produced by the economic stimuli that are created by nuclear power plants."

Is this an argument against economic growth generally? I don't think that's going to be a vote-winner for Edwards.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:40 PM
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12. This is an argument for alternative forms of economic growth.
You have posed the old false dichotomy about green energy and economic development.

When will people stop over-simplyfying things into the mutually exclusive either/or?
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:34 PM
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10. Gore would be an idiot to endorse at this point
If he isn't in the running, the best thing he can do is to keep silent. I think an endorsement at this point won't help the candidate that much(Kerry endorsing Obama did nothing to sway me- He just reminded me that I wanted Dean in 2004) and might hurt Gore's positions.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:44 PM
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15. Ironic isn't it? All of these "Independents" and cross-overs are what
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 01:55 PM by patrice
the Deanocrats were calling for in '04, and then Kerry endorses BO. Oh well, better late than never.

On edit: If I sound a little bitter, perhaps you'll understand how hard it is to have people berating you to be active "purple" grassroots, when you were asking for exactly that during ALL of 2004 and no one could be bothered then. Plus, a lot of "Democrats" joined the f-ing Media in ridiculing our candidate.

On sub-edit: Which I could just forget, I suppose, if Kerry hadn't WALKED AWAY from election fraud in Ohio. I guess noblese oblige only obliges just so much and the "Democratic" Party wants us to participate in the process alright - WHEN THEY SAY SO = Obama.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:00 PM
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18. You know, all of this election cycle is like wonderland or the twilight zone
I'd swear I was dreaming, but this apparently passes for "reality."

one word: VETOED!
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:16 PM
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19. And the Twilight Zone is what's freaking me out when people talk about Electability.
I don't trust them anymore, because everything they say and do is about rational statistical analysis and they appear to be completely ignorant of the immensity of non-rational processes in the body politic, which, just as in '00 and '04 but much more intense this time because of the Recession, WILL cause people to do INSANE things against their own self-interests.

That's why the appeal MUST be very precisely addressed to their specific concrete self-interests and why, IMO, Edwards is more of a cross-over candidate than Obama and will do much better against Romney and/or McCain.

I'm praying for a ticket with both of my favorites on it, that WILL potentially solve all of our problems (and I want to get as far away from the DLC as I can.)

So, I'm not vetoeing them yet, but I am for Edwards or Un-committed ALL OF THE WAY.
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:38 PM
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11. Here is an article I read
http://www.nysun.com/article/68678

>>>snip
An endorsement by Vice President Gore in the hard-fought Democratic presidential race could give a huge boost to Senator Obama or allow Senator Clinton to deliver the coup de grace to her rivals, but several campaign operatives and former aides to Mr. Gore now see the chances of such a nod fading.

Several former advisers said the Nobel Peace Prize awarded to Mr. Gore in October for his work combating global climate change has catapulted him to national and international prominence in a way that could be tarnished by his taking sides in the primary fight.

"In many respects, he has transcended partisan politics," a former aide, Christopher Lehane, said. "I think he'll be extremely sensitive about doing anything that could potentially impact his global brand."
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:43 PM
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14. Global brand more important that supporting the candidate he thinks would be best?
Gosh, excuse us for bothering him with these petty issues - maybe you could just wave at us as you fly over. I know that's not a quote from him, but jeez!
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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:47 PM
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16. Not what it indicates at all
WHOEVER the President is...will undoubtedly call upon Gore for help in some form or fashion. Why throw away political goodwill when it serves the people BETTER by not endorsing anyone...yet supporting everyone?
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:23 PM
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20. well, that does make some sense nt
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:49 PM
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17. it does make him sound a bit of a preening ass
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:15 PM
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25. reread the article. Gore did NOT say that.. a former aide did. n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:19 PM
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27. Chris Lehane said that - meaning - read the opposite!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:14 PM
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24. "global brand" was the phrase used by a FORMER
employee... if you re-read it, you will see that is wasn't what Gore said. This was an opinion of someone else.
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 01:42 PM
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13. He shouldn't endorse anyone during the primary season
Instead, he should hang tight and see if a deadlocked convention might decide to draft him.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:16 PM
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26. hoping so too.
:hi:
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:24 PM
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21. I hope not.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:25 PM
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22. Welcome, and the real quesiton is...will it help the candidate as
much as it helped Howard Dean in 2004????? Yikes!
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 02:43 PM
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23. The democratic nominee.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:21 PM
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28. You can go to the bank that it won't be Clinton, Inc.
It will Barack Obama.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 09:28 PM
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29. The Democratic Party candidate, not before. He is one smart puppy. nt
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