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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:23 PM
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Nevada's largest newspaper, that endorsed Obama, criticizes him during endorsement
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 03:26 PM by antiimperialist
Talking Points Memo has a superb article about the "less than enthusiastic" endorsement by right-wing newspaper Las Vegas Journal Review.
You be your own judge:

Is Barack Obama, then, the ideal Democratic candidate for president? Hardly. His policy recommendations -- when he can be convinced to get any more specific than "I represent change" -- are the opposite of "change." They're old-line, welfare-state solutions that haven't spent enough time in the microwave to appear even superficially appetizing.
Sen. Obama is a relatively young man with relatively little of the kind of real-world experience that prepares a candidate to stand firm against urgent advice to, say, bomb some remote population of defenseless civilians to "send a message," or plunge the economy into a dark night of unforeseen consequences by crippling the free market in the name of "fighting greed."

But Barack Obama is, at least, likeable.


Note how in the first line they make it very clear that they won't be endorsing him for the 2008 presidential election: Is Barack Obama, then, the ideal Democratic candidate for president? Hardly.

With friends like these...
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PresidentObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:24 PM
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1. .....Mhmmm....
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:25 PM
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2. Weren't you babbling on about how "terrible their judgement is" yesterday?
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:27 PM
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5. Yes, I maintain that
That's a very bad characterization of Obama, who is better than any Republican. I don't know why they say he is "harly" the ideal candidate for the presidency.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:28 PM
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8. So, why repeatedly post the judgements of someone you believe is incapable of judging?
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:34 PM
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10. To show Obamaniacs that this newspaper's endorsement won't help him
Many here were ecstatic because the rag endorsed Obama, without bothering to find out their ideology, or whether their words could be used against Obama or not.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 05:07 PM
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19. You have two incompatible points.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 05:07 PM by Occam Bandage
1. They have horrible judgement and nobody listens to them.
2. Their words will hurt Obama.

"I never borrowed your lawnmower. And anyway, it was broken when you lent it to me. Besides, I gave it back after I used it to mow my lawn. "
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antiimperialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 10:59 PM
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21. wait...did I ever said "nobody listens to them" or anything similar?
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 11:01 PM by antiimperialist
Adding comments that were never made, again?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:55 PM
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14. Babbling how right wing they
were..that's what antiimperalist was doin'.

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:26 PM
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3. Makes me wonder how poorly they think of Hillary
.......saying that kind of stuff in an endorsement.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:27 PM
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7. Seems more like a split decision. nt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:27 PM
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4. Who owns the paper?
Reason I ask is because in 2004, the Cleveland Plain Dealer's editorial board decided to endorse Kerry. Nevertheless, the paper's owner overruled them and ordered the board to endorse Bush. So they did, but with a very critical analysis attached.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:27 PM
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6. someone on tv said that it was a repug paper
and that Dems hated it, and the endorsemant might not help much to voting Dems
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:31 PM
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9. Our parents are old and they aren't wise. Bush is older and he is not wiser.
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terisan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:55 PM
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15. Speak for your own parents.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 07:10 PM
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20.  mine and my husbands parents= ours. (Not yours)
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 07:24 PM by caligirl
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:36 PM
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11. guyz! aren't all the major msm's Republican owned from the get-go?!!
then what would you expect?
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:40 PM
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12. Its nothing compared to the SFBG endorsement, that one is bizarre

http://www.sfbg.com/printable_entry.php?entry_id=5430

Remember this is an endorsement to Obama.

I now how to endorse someone with a baseball bat to the back of the head, seriously read it and you'll know what i mean. It just defies explanation.

The best part is this

"The cost of his soaring rhetoric is a disappointing lack of specific plans. It can be hard at times to tell exactly what Obama stands for, exactly how he plans to carry out his ambitious goals. His stump speeches are riddled with words like change and exhortations to a new approach to politics, but he doesn't talk much, for example, about how to address the gap between the rich and the poor, or how to tackle urban crime and poverty, or whether Israel should stop building settlements in the occupied territories.

In fact, our biggest problem with Obama is that he talks as if all the nation needs to do is come together in some sort of grand coalition of Democrats and Republicans, of "blue states and red states." But some of us have no interest in making common cause with the religious right or Dick Cheney or Halliburton or Don Fisher. There are forces and interests in the United States that need to be opposed, defeated, consigned to the dustbin of history, and for all of Obama's talk of unity, we worry that he lacks the interest in or ability to take on a tough, bloody fight against an entrenched political foe".

I mean some schizophrenic lunatic must have wrote this.

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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:53 PM
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13. This is the same rag that gushed over what a good man Bush was.
Blah.

I want change. REAL CHANGE. I'm sick of all the bullshit. I'm voting for Edwards.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:56 PM
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16. Expect nothing more from that rag.
Edited on Wed Jan-16-08 04:00 PM by goodgd_yall
It's the Las Vegas Sun that is the Democratic paper.
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 03:59 PM
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17. I find it disconcerting that Republican rags like Obama


Its like someone spitting on you, you just dont want to touch them afterwards.

Is Obama a democrat or a rethug in wolfs clothing.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-16-08 04:02 PM
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18. It is disconcerting
Our party's values are in danger of being (further) diluted if we become influenced by Republicans.
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