"Obama more electable...-and it's not even close." - TPM on Hotline/Diageo polll

[HeraldSquare212]

from TPM:
http://tpmelectioncentral.com/2008/01/hotlinediageo_national_dem_race_close_mccain_leads_gop.php#more


The new Hotline/Diageo poll shows the Democratic race to be a close one nationwide,

Democrats:
Clinton 38%
Obama 35%
Edwards 15%

-snip-

The general election match-ups also show that while any of the Democrats could beat most of the Republicans, Barack Obama is more electable than either Hillary Clinton or John Edwards — and it's not even close.

Generic Democrat 48%, Generic Republican 33%
Obama (D) 43%, McCain (R) 42%
McCain (R) 48%, Clinton (D) 45%
Obama (R) 54%, Huckabee (R) 31%
Clinton (D) 49%, Huckabee (R) 40%
Obama (D) 57%, Romney (R) 27%
Clinton (D) 50%, Romney (R) 39%
Obama (D) 56%, Giuliani (R) 34%
Clinton (D) 51%, Giuliani (R) 41%
Edwards (D) 51%, Giuliani (R) 31%
McCain (R) 48%, Edwards (D) 40%
Edwards (D) 48%, Huckabee (R) 33%
Edwards (D) 50%, Romney (R) 34%

[TeamJordan23]

1. Hillary cannot get Indep. voters. She will lose a GE. nm

[jefferson_dem]

9. I don't want to be forced into deciding whether or not to say "I told you so."

C'mon Dems!

[Invidious]

2. Yeah, but that is the 300lb gorilla that Hillary Supporters

want to ignore.

[rinsd]

4. What is ignored? That Hillary beats all GOPers except McCain who gives each Dem trouble?

That part is what seems to be ignored by asshats calling her unelectable

[Proud2BAmurkin]

6. That shes been scrutinized with a microscope for 20 years but they haven't touched Obama yet.

And when they do it will be ugly.

[Barack_America]

17. Dude. She lost the independent vote in Michigan to "Uncommitted"

That is not good. Please tell me how that bodes well for a general election. And don't say "independent votes don't matter" because we all know that they do.

[rinsd]

22. Dude, uncommitted voters were Obama voters.

Obama is more popular with indies than Hillary.

By your logic Obama can't win because he doesn't draw enough Democratic support.

Hillary still whoops most of the GOPers head to head.

[Sparkly]

3. I think that's really hard to say right now.

No general election campaign has even begun.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

5. Obama hasn't been vetted. When he is, he'll be behind any RePUKE by 20 points.

eom

[cali]

8. desperate much?

and I hate to break it to you but no one believes that you of all people are some oracle. Give it up, kiddo.

[Proud2BAmurkin]

10. I don't need to be an oracle, any idiot knows Obama will be scrutinized and most know he'll fail

under the microscope. Not saying he should, but he will.

[calico1]

14. Exactly.

We are not yet at the point where the Democratic candidate is running against the Republican candidate. These numbers can change a lot from now to then. I am surprised anyone would think these numbers are solid through election day.

[cali]

18. So will they all

that doesn't mean, as you claim, that he'll crumble under the scrutiny.

[featherman]

Certainly seems obvious to me

Can't speak for the rest of the country but here in my rural county HRC at the top of the ticket will be a very, very hard sell for us election precinct workers. Very difficult with many DEM voters, most INDs. Of course the GOP candidate is still unknown and could be an equally hard sell to our INDs so...who knows.

[Zynx]

7. And Dukakis was 16 pts ahead of GHWB at one point.

When candidates are unknowns, this is easy. They track generic numbers. Wait until the Republicans unleash tens of millions in smears.

[papau]

12. Indeed at the end of June going into the Convention just before the GOP ads hit.

[redqueen]

11. Hotline/Diageo ?

Is that a new one?

[progressoid]

15. Diageo, the world’s leading spirits, beer and wine company, and The Hotline, the leading daily news

Diageo, the world’s leading spirits, beer and wine company, and The Hotline, the leading daily news briefing on American politics, have teamed up to bring you the Diageo/Hotline Poll. The poll is conducted monthly by FD, a specialist communications consultancy, focusing public opinion research on important national issues to inform and stimulate debate.

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http://www.diageohotlinepoll.com/

:eyes:

[calico1]

13. A lot of people don't really pay

attention until a few months before the Presidential election. So much can happen between then and now, which is why I take all these poll numbers with a big grain of salt.

[redqueen]

16. Same here...

I tried to be light about them earlier and found out that some around here treat them as gospel. *sigh*

[Kahuna]

19. Shhh. That can't be...

He's black.

And for all those who say Obama can't win, the voters are about to decide that. We all know that Obama can't win with just the "black" vote. So let's just sit back and see what happens before we say what can't happen. Sabe?

[skipos]

20. Wait until we nominate Hillary and Bloomberg and Nader get in the mix. That will be even better

for the Republicans.
:woohoo:

[sunonmars]

21. Wouldnt put stock in any of those

The Obama vs Mccain one for a start, the % only adds up to 85%, theres 15% missing.

Same with the rest, wide margins of error.

[BootinUp]

23. good advice...

[depakid]

24. Yet another meaningless poll

reflecting fantasy over reality.

[mckeown1128]

25. kick