Obama Just Doesn't Get It

[NashVegas]

There aren't enough Reagan Republicans who will switch parties and vote for him in their primary, to make up for the remaining Democrats who are going, "WTF?"

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[ClericJohnPreston]

6. COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

meet Obama supporters.

Warped spin-makers, meet Obama Nation.

Distortion, thy name is Obama Nation.

[madeline_con]

14. Thanks for the info about the

donation tomorrow.

[Yael]

31. Thank you for your support!

[codeindigo]

27. well put.

:)

[Colobo]

2. Obama gets it perfectly: Reagan made wonders for his party and his ideology.

Obama will do the same for us, only that he will help the country in the process, unlike Reagan.

[ClericJohnPreston]

20. from the person who once wrote 15 posts simultaneously

praising Obama, flooding the board.

Nice unbiased view.

Bwahahahahahahahahahhahaahahahaha!

[codeindigo]

30. we don't need another theme park.

[thoughtcrime1984]

37. I don't see what is so damn difficult for people to understand

about his comments. Glad you get it, Katz! :cheers:

[Unsane]

3. Perhaps he was looking to make inroads among California's independents?

Their primary is open I believe.

[FreeState]

7. CA is an open primary, but the independents wont vote for him if

it looks like Romney or Huckabee will get the nod - same thing happened in NH - they will vote for McCain.

[Unsane]

9. If it looks like Romney or Huckabee were getting the nom, wouldn't

Obama actually get more indy votes in CA, seeing how McCain would be out of the race at that point?

[FreeState]

11. McCain will not be out before Feb 5th - he is ahead in national polls

But Romney and Huckabee are ahead in all the races leading up to the 5th.

[Unsane]

12. McCain losing in South Carolina is good for Obama in California.

Weird, I know. But probably true. The less McCain looks like a frontrunner going into Feb. 5th, the fewer indy votes he can siphon from Obama in places like CA. Agree?

[FreeState]

13. Nope if McCain does not win SC, independents will break for him on the 5th

out of fear of a Huckabee or Romney nomination. If CA was held later on in the process then I would agree.

[Unsane]

16. He loses SC, comes in 3rd in FL (Jan. 29th). You still think indies break for him Feb. 5th?

I'd think he would be out of it by that time. A big reason why indies broke for him in NH was because of his extended presence in the state as well as the surge he'd seen in the polls, two aspects that will be lacking in CA. Has McCain even had any ad buys in the Golden State? We'll agree to disagree on this one.

[FreeState]

18. I guess we will have to wait and see:)

I like this part of politics - no matter who your candidate is the actual observing of who is voting and why is fascinating IMO.

[Unsane]

19. Agreed.

[NashVegas]

10. They'll Have to Be HUGE Inroads

With hundreds of thousands of people who were 8 or under during the Reagan era.

[thunder rising]

4. Thanks for the concern. It will work out, I'm sure. The chips will fall for sure Saturday

And then we will know.

BTW: Wasn't Hillary named on that Lawsuit to Disenfranchise the union votes? Just asking?

[rwheeler31]

5. Yup If people understood economics they would understand

this.

[ProSense]

8. Maybe it's the other two who don't get

get it.

[NashVegas]

22. I Really Don't Think So

Not unless Obama is trying to position himself for the VP slot.

What Reagan ushered in was bad for America - and he was really just the figurehead. The hard right was already there, they just wanted someone to be their ticket to power. Reagan was happy to help.

I don't entirely disagree with him on Bill Clinton's changes not being effective in the long run - but I do think Clinton's greatest accomplishments will be unheralded (declassifying cold war docs, shepherding an open internet).

So .. if Obama wants to be like Reagan, what ideologues is he going to open the door for? Which movers is he going to put into key positions? Who will be his Casey? His Oliver North? Who will be his Poindexter?

[ProSense]

28. There are Democrats on this board who voted for Reagan

and Bush.

Your premise is flawed.

[NashVegas]

33. With No Regrets?

..

[Samantha]

34. You are so right, and I too despised Ronald Reagan

and his policies -- but I remember that term "Reagan Democrats" so well, and I think Obama was throwing a crumb to them and a big wave to Californians. I simply do not understand why DU cannot distinguish between a compliment to Reagan on changing the direction, in fact seizing it, the campaign as opposed to lending a stamp of approval on his policies. Obama made clear from the beginning he wanted to run a different sort of campaign, uniting the Country, and his Reagan remarks were both astute in their pitch but restrained on acclamation of the Reagan administration's policies. Where exactly are the discriminating political junkies here?

[ArkySue]

35. But...

How do those Democrats feel about that today? Do they still praise their choices??

Reagan was a vile, horrible man; a grade-B actor that won by selling his spiel about optimism, change, "a new day." No policies, just a feel-good attitude. Look what we got!

Now Obama is wanting to emulate him, selling "hope" and "change" but without any specifics. Be very careful.

[thoughtcrime1984]

36. You should listen to his comments again

He never said Reagan was a great President, or that he would emulate him. Overreaction by those who do not understand the context of what was said, or just wanting to pile on the candidate that isn't Hil or Johnny. I thought DU was smarter than this. I thought wrong.

[Tulkas]

15. pundits saying 50% of America liked it

Percentage is higher in California, where independents can vote in the primary.

It may help in some states and hurt in others.

[NashVegas]

23. 50% Of America

Isn't voting in the Dem primaries.

[Tulkas]

24. true

but in open primary states it plays to the middle well.

[cali]

42. Actually, I very few number of Americans vote in the primaries.

But independents make up a growing number of those those voting in dem open primaries.

[stillcool]

17. I'm not sure I get it either..

I listened to the interview, and according to my ears, he was commenting on the "Reagan Revolution"..and how people were eager for change, and how much he (Reagan) was able to accomplish having the 'will of the people' behind him. The fact that his policies were disastrous in no way, diminishes his ability to bring about enormous change in our country and it's policies.

[Tulkas]

26. Exactly

If I said that creating a mechanized military and using it in concentrated attacks to break through enemy lines was a revolution in modern warfare...... that does not mean I admire Hitler. I DON'T!!!


He did not say he approved of the direction Reagan took the country, only that Reagan took the country in a new direction. Then took a shot at Reagan tax cuts... "well we have tried that" (chuckle) was a pretty clear shot at Reagan's legacy.

[jackson_dem]

21. His supporters see no wrongs, hear no wrongs from Obama

He will keep them, he may lose some swing Democrats but he will be the overwhelming choice of Republicans and that may be more than enough to offset the loss of some on the fence Democrats. We know his campaign is courting Republican votes.

[Tulkas]

25. we don't think he is perfect

just better than the other viable choice, Hell I would vote for Biden or Richardson if they had been viable

I want to win the general with someone I can support

Clinton's negatives are way to high, and I can't trust anything either one of them says.

[Yael]

29. Half of the country thinks he is a Manchurian Muslim

Damned if I will waste any more time trying to explain it to them. Deaf ears to the base works both ways.

He can get out of this the way he got into it. Triangulating.

[NashVegas]

32. LOL

I'm sorry, that just struck me as funny.

[Yael]

38. I live in a VERY red area

If I had a dime for every time I have been emailed/told that he took his Senate oath on the Koran, I could retire.

[stravu9]

39. OBama is a ROOKIE

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[tishaLA]

40. Ron Reagan Jr gets it

"They both came along at times when society was on the cusp of change and they are both agents of change," Ron Reagan Jr, told the Huffington Post. "As far as Barack Obama being a similar agent of change, that remains to be seen. But what I do see him saying is that we are in a historical moment right now like the 60s and 80s. And I think he's right. We are overdue for a cultural shift."

[Faux pas]

41. When Obama speaks, I hear and see a man with a serious

God complex. Don't we already have one of those in the White House? Obama scares me and I think people better start looking past the glossy veneer and start really paying attention to him in toto.