Lying Clinton hack, Taylor Marsh, exposed by Las Vegas Sun

[ProSense]

Lying Clinton hack, Taylor Marsh, exposed by Las Vegas Sun

Wednesday was just another day for so-called liberal radio personality, Taylor Marsh.

As she has done many times this primary season, Marsh drummed up another lie with which to bash a Democratic candidate who dares to challenge Hillary Clinton. Marsh has become our very own Rush Limbaugh. And, like Limbaugh, she uses outright lies, half-truths and distortions to attack Democrats. The difference being, of course, that Marsh claims to be a Democrat.

Adding to the already long list of lies she has promulgated on her radio program and on her blog, Marsh, on Wednesday, took this story from the Las Vegas Sun...

Incident at Paris Las Vegas (UPDATED)

... about a claim by two union Clinton supporters that a co-worker had been intimidated into supporting Obama -- even though the co-worker denied she had been intimidated -- and turned it into something much larger and far more sinister...

Culinary Union Intimidating Members to Vote for Obama.

The only problem: once again, Marsh was lying.

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But the Sun didn't stop there. They had some questions for Taylor Marsh:

The situation is not as black and white as liberal blogger Taylor Marsh says it is. Marsh did not respond to an e-mail seeking an interview. Here are some questions the Sun sought to ask her.

1. Marsh did not identify the eyewitness to the Paris incident as a Clinton supporter. Why not?

2. Marsh did not include any interview with the actual alleged victim, Sylvia Antuna. Why not? In an interview with the Sun, Antuna said the incident may have been more misunderstanding than intimidation.

3. Did Marsh attempt to reach the Culinary Union to get its response to the allegation? If not, why not?

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[MethuenProgressive]

1. Why does ObamaNation Hate women so much?

:shrug:

[NoBorders]

2. Don't hate her. She's just an HRC shill, that's all. n/t

[ProSense]

3. Woman = Pathetic hack? No, she's a pathetic hack! n/t

[beachmom]

4. Nice shameless idiotic ad hominem attack. I am a woman and highly offended

by Taylor Marsh's hackery. She gives lib bloggers a bad name everywhere.

So when the going gets tough, you're going to play the gender card? Unbelievable.

[ShortnFiery]

42. I am a woman and proud that Taylor Marsh, the person, has been exposed as A POLITICAL HACK.

That ole, "Leave us alone, we're victims" meme is falling on deaf ears. :shrug:

But let's don't stray from the "HRC and her women supporters (& Taylor Marsh?!?) are ALL Women" talking point? :evilgrin: It's becoming so inane that I'm somewhat amused at this pathetic attempt for increased attention. ;)

[NoPasaran]

5. If you can't trust the word

Of a rabid diarist on Daily Kos, what can you trust?
:shrug:

[NYCGirl]

9. Try the original:

http://ruralvotes.com/thefield/?p=253

[NoPasaran]

22. I already read that in another thread

The one where the OP ranted about the 4000 paid Clinton posters supposedly controlled by evil genius Taylor Marsh.

[beachmom]

11. Bob Johnson is a long time Kossak, previously well known for his snarky funny

diaries, often Meta, when the community got too heated on a topic. I find his frank diaries on the hackery of Taylor Marsh necessary.

[ProSense]

14. Here, from the rabid Las Vegas Sun, more

4) Last year, Marsh accepted money from the Association of Federal, State, City and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), to blog at a Democratic event. AFSCME has endorsed Clinton and is a longtime ally of the Clinton family. Has Marsh taken payment from AFSCME recently? If so, how much?

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[Cameron27]

16. Well lets find out if she's taking money

from AFSCME before condemning her for it.

[ProSense]

28. Her lies are disgusting. If she's taking money to promote them that would be despicable,

amounting to Democrats resorting Republican smear tactics.

[Cameron27]

38. What lies?

The Sun just printed exactly what she's been arguing about the NV caucus.

[ProSense]

43. The lies in the article!

The lies that we know are lies.

Are you surprised that a paper editorial and a news article in the same paper can contradict each other?

[Cameron27]

46. They're not lies.

She didn't identify the woman who was intimidated as a Clinton supporter? No lie there, and I don't even know why it matters.

She may or may not take money from another union. No lie there, and no proof of anything either.

She didn't contact the Sun. No lie there, and she may end up contacting them anyway.

[NoPasaran]

23. A blogger getting a paycheck? I'm scared shitless

:scared:

:scared:

:scared:

[ProSense]

27. It's fine for you to support dishonesty. No need to be snarky about it. n/t

[aquart]

69. Smear by insinuation?

They have NOTHING so they phrase it as a question. Good grief, if you can't spot garbage when you see it...

[zulchzulu]

8. We call an asshole...an asshole. It doesn't matter what gender they are, Pops

Get over your loss with the Richardson thing. Take up a hobby like thinking.

[dionysus]

21. Take up a hobby like thinking.

zing!

[BeyondGeography]

12. At what point did you lose it completely?

:shrug:

[Cha]

83. Musta been somewhere back

when I put it on ignore.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

15. why does Hillary hate blacks?

what a stupid thing to say. seriously you should apologize for posting that.

[dionysus]

19. what a load of shit. you don't have any better lies than that?

you guys must be running low.

[burythehatchet]

64. HIT and RUN

you are a certfied fool.

[burythehatchet]

65. I finally get it - You work for OBAMA

Excellent job!

[Adelante]

6. I should hope somebody is paying her

Imagine if she did all of this for free :scared:

[zulchzulu]

7. The Clinton brand is to LIE so she's just following the brand identity

You can't blame Marsh for acting like a Clinton. I mean, really...

[Cameron27]

10. I don't think that the Sun made it's case,

they talked about the worst case scenario being a voter who was told that they could caucus for Obama or not caucus at all. Well that's exactly the problem, not to mention any intimidation they might feel when their supervisors are watching them in the same room.

From what I understand, Marsh was talking to the very people who wrote comments in the Sun itself. I'm not going to assume anything until I get more information...and certainly not from a diary at KOS.

[Barack_America]

18. The Sun did make it's case...

They pointed out that she:
1. Left out important facts (i.e. that the person she interviewed about the "intimidation" was a Clinton supporter)
2. Failed to interview the actual "victim" to get the complete story.

Those two facts alone should be enough cause for no one to ever trust anything on her blog again. She purports herself as a "reporter" of sorts, but she conducts herself like a partisan-hack.

[Cameron27]

26. The Sun seems to agree with Taylor today:

"As we see it, the only obstacle in Clinton’s way in Nevada is the unfair caucus system that has been set up, specifically the rule that allows on-site voting at casino workplaces on the Strip. Not only is it unfair because it isn’t an option for noncasino workers who can’t get away from work, but it also enables the Culinary Union, which has endorsed Obama, to pressure its members into voting for their union’s endorsed candidate even if they prefer Clinton."

And by the way, The Sun just endorsed Clinton :-)

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2008/jan/18/e-endorse/

[Barack_America]

45. Their opinion of the caucus has nothing to do with lying about "intimidation"

Those are separate issues. You do realize that people can disagree on some things and agree on others, don't you?

I mean I know that you're "100% Hillary, whatever she says goes"....but you could disagree with her and still support her.

[Cameron27]

48. There's absolutely no proof that

those incidents were lies or that intimidation didn't take place.

[Barack_America]

70. Except that the woman in question didn't feel intimidated and was registered.

The only "evidence" for intimidation were the exaggerated claims by a couple of Clinton supporters.

Sorry, but I'd rather go directly to the source. The woman in question described the incident as "a misunderstanding" and not intimidation. But if you want to believe the baseless claims of the Clinton supporters who spread the story, that's your choice.

[beachmom]

47. That's the editorial board, separate from the news division which

did their job. Shame on the editorial board for furthering the smear.

[aquart]

71. Vegas Sun. Ah. Should say so.

Still a rw rag? Which Republican did they like?

[Barack_America]

13. Last question from the article: Is Taylor Marsh Being Paid By Clinton?

4. Last year, Marsh accepted money from the Association of Federal, State, City and Municipal Employees (AFSCME), to blog at a Democratic event. AFSCME has endorsed Clinton and is a longtime ally of the Clinton family. Has Marsh taken payment from AFSCME recently? If so, how much?

Taylor Marsh is pathetic. She should be ashamed of herself for posing as a quasi-reporter when her true motive is only to spread blatant lies for the Clinton campaign. She's done a disservice to bloggers everywhere.

[NoPasaran]

24. Actual last question from article: Is she being paid by AFSCME?

Your Hillary hatred seems to have impacted your comprehension skills significantly. You probably should refrain from driving or operating heavy machinery until you can see straight again.

[ProSense]

30. "AFSCME has endorsed Clinton and is a longtime ally of the Clinton family."

You're questioning someone else' comprehension skills?

You like dishonesty, that's your problem.

[Scriptor Ignotus]

17. this is the difference between a journalist

and a blogger.

[Barack_America]

20. That's exactly true...n/t

[babylonsister]

40. So, what does that make

Bob Novak, Charles Krauthammer, et al? :hide: They might not be definable! Or maybe r/w hacks!

[madrchsod]

25. marsh also writes for "hillary is 44"

who`s paying for and running that site? why don`t they say who they are? so many questions and no answers

[here_is_to_hope]

29. Ho Hum, another day, another post attacking

a perfectly decent Dem...
Hi Prosense, I hope you have a wonderful day and a really fine weekend.
And thanks for sharing your disgust, I just dont know what I would do if I logged on and didnt yet another attack post from you and so many others who just dont get it.

[ProSense]

34. "another post attacking a perfectly decent Dem." Is Taylor Marsh the same as Hillary

or are you saying Taylor Marsh is a "perfectly decent Dem"?

[SoxFan]

68. "Perfectly decent Dems"

don't engage in under-the-table pay-for play politics.

They get their facts straight.

They don't repeat debunked Rupert Murdoch lies.

Taylor Marsh is a pathetic old hack, not a decent Dem.

[TwilightGardener]

31. I saw her once on Dan Abrams' show. She's an absolute idiot.

[Cameron27]

35. That's your opinion.

[TwilightGardener]

39. No, it's a fact. Even Abrams didn't care for her loud mouth and dumb comments.

[Cameron27]

41. She was talking about sexism in the media

and she was slapped around by Dan Abrams, who seems to have adjusted his attitude since then, and has turned into the best pundit in the media IMO.

[ShortnFiery]

53. Gawd! I'm so embarrassed as a woman that HRC's surrogates trot out that lame "we're victims!" meme

At least learn a "new tune" because this one won't PLAY. :crazy:

Abrams, IMNSHO, is too openly opinionated to moderate his own show. At times, he's as arrogant and pompous as Tweety. However, the people he "bats around" are not all of the feminine gender. And he didn't make "a transformation" to the positive JUST BECAUSE lately he's been "posturing" for your candidate.

Talk about self-serving and paranoid analyses?!? :eyes:

[Cameron27]

58. Oh god, I'm so sorry for

your embarrassment. Like I said below, you can continue this bash without me.

[ShortnFiery]

61. No bash. So funny, HRC and her operatives BASH & then when the blow-back hits, they cry out "FOUL!"

You mean ole' people stop picking on HRC (and her political hacks)! She's a lady! She's a victim!

Lame and tiringly predictable. :eyes:

[burythehatchet]

66. THE biggest bunch of pussies I have ever seen ( in the figurative sense)

[Jai4WKC08]

75. Gee, I didn't know seasonedblue was an "operative"

Funny, she doesn't LOOK operativish.

I think I know who's a self-hating operative. Well, maybe no a real operative. Maybe just has operative
envy.:+

[Cameron27]

82. Operative?

I can barely link a pic on DU, and I'm afraid to start my own threads. :rofl:

[beachmom]

50. I saw her in person at YearlyKos. She was whining about how she

couldn't get a radio show, then asked Gen. Wes Clarke a lame question about Iraq. Everyone was rolling their eyes at her. This was well before her switch to Hillary hackery. I guess maybe she's happier now, having found her niche. Sad.

[Cameron27]

52. It's still your opinion

and I'm sure she's quite happy supporting Hillary Clinton. I'll take Taylor's punditry over that hack Ed Shultz anyday.

[TwilightGardener]

56. I don't much like Schultz either. I do like Rachel Maddow, but the rest of 'em...meh.

[Nimrod2005]

32. Sick mother fuckers.....nt

[Enrique]

33. people do this many times daily on DU

take a news article and spin it for their partisan purposes.

[ShortnFiery]

59. But not "The Clintons" and their operatives? Why? They're all poor ole' VICTIMS

to the political hackery. :crazy:

The Clintonian DLC uses the Rovarian "dirty tricks" playbook invented by Lee Atwater and other smarmy characters within the RNC.

There's very little difference with regard to "morality" when it comes to the political hackery of the DLC vs. RNC. Both entities' tactics are *morally depraved* and it's not serving the interests of The American People, but only their (RNC/DLC) blessed corporate MASTERS.

Thank God that we now have the capability to call these smarmy operatives on their deceit.

WE ALL LOSE when votes are suppressed or a "smear campaign" is successful ... when you have to "cheat to win." :grr: :puke:

[Enrique]

62. not limited to the DLC, the RNC, Rove, etc.

people do much much worse than this on DU, all the time.

Let's not pretend to be so shocked by this extremely common action, which we ourselves do all the time.

[GalleryGod]

36. Every Campaign has their own "Megaphones".

It's O.K. by me.

[niceypoo]

37. Let me guess, she doesnt support Obama...

That makes her an evil, "hack," right?

[Cameron27]

44. Yep

she doesn't support Obama, and right now, she doesn't even like him. That makes her evil.

[ShortnFiery]

49. Take a few minutes to actually PERUSE the cited evidence presented above?

:eyes:

[beachmom]

51. No, she's been caught in numerous lies. THAT is what makes her a hack. n/t

[Cameron27]

54. Then you list all the lies

before you accuse.

[ShortnFiery]

55. Many of Taylor Marsh's prejudices and spin have been listed above. Feel free to revisit?

:eyes:

[Cameron27]

57. And I addressed them.

Now I'm leaving this typical bashing of "anyone who doesn't support Barack Obama' thread. Have at it.

[ShortnFiery]

60. I'm sorry that the EVIDENCE cited Re: Taylor Marsh's record of Political Hackery is difficult ...

Have a nice day. ;)

[ProSense]

63. In addition to the lies in the LVS article, here is

another despicable example.

[aquart]

67. The SUN? Ultra rightwing subway rag. They try to give it away.

Most New Yorkers won't even take it for free.

[ProSense]

74. Yes, the paper that endorsed Hillary, but you do know this is a Las Vegas Sun article right? n/t

[Tom Rinaldo]

72. Pressure being put on Union members has NOT been debunked

"After speaking with several Culinary members — at the suggestion of the Clinton campaign —the Sun cannot substantiate widespread voter intimidation on the part union organizers. What is clear, however, is that Culinary organizers are pushing Obama hard in the run-up to Saturday’s Caucus.

It’s also clear that some members in some cases have felt intimidated by the pushy approach of some organizers. According to labor experts, a vigorous back-and-forth is the norm in these types of situations — and the tactics don’t cross the legal line unless workers are overtly threatened.

None of the Culinary members interviewed by the Sun claim to have been threatened."


Note this sentence:

"It’s also clear that some members in some cases have felt intimidated by the pushy approach of some organizers"

If the red line is whether or not union members are being OVERTLY threatened if they do not support Obama, no evidence proved that anyone has crossed that line. But that is a very legalistic line; "and the tactics don’t cross the legal line unless workers are overtly threatened."

Plain old garden variety "intimidation" of the sort that has been used to discourage Blacks from voting in the past that doesn't cross over into actually preventing someone from voting if they can brave the intimidation factor is not exactly something to proud of or condoned. "Pressure" is not always as blatant as waking up to find a severed horse's head on your pillow.

[madfloridian]

73. Of course they are pushing hard for Obama....that's what they should do.

It is not proven. It is likely debunked, and definitely not provem.

[ProSense]

76. Kick! n/t

[fedupinBushcountry]

77. K&R

:kick:

[ProSense]

78. Kick n/t

[robbedvoter]

79. Dunno Taylor Marsh, I read of similar incidents in a Rolling Stones investigation

So, maybe there are more occasions than can be debunked

[ProSense]

80. Kick! n/t

[Cha]

81. taylor marsh is on the run but

she can't hide..her lies are gonna catch up to her some day and won't it be fine for her..but for us..grand!