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Herman Munster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:54 PM
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60,000 Culinary Workers is inaccurate, many are not citizens and can't vote
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 03:54 PM by Herman Munster
When you get down the numbers, culinary may only have 30,000 members that are eligible to vote.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:56 PM
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1. Any sources for this remarkable claim?
Links? :shrug:
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:03 PM
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5. I overheard it at Area 51
:tinfoilhat:
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:31 PM
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17. Sounds like a Lou Dobbs "fact."
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:39 PM
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29. Heard that quoted on last night's Countdown. It was Dobbs. NT
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:56 PM
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2. By rule there will be no check for citizenship - sign a piece of paper saying you can vote and you
are counted on Saturday.
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 03:57 PM
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3. Is there still time for the Clinton's to figure out a way to supress the vote of those 30k?
If there is a way, those two will figure it out.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:05 PM
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9. That was an un=necessary comment and nasty-uncalled for!
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:28 PM
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16. It's not nasty. The Clintons are hard working and determined.
I am very confident they have the skills to figure out some way to suppress those votes.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:00 PM
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4. and you know this how?
Oh that's right, you don't.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:07 PM
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10. He got them directly from the Department of Pulling Numbers Out Of My Ass
don't you read the papers?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:19 PM
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14. Don't shoot the messenger I'm just telling you where I heard it from, ok?
Lou Dobbs show last night.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:04 PM
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6. the numbers add up when using green cards, those applying for citizenship. I do
not nor have seen any documented numbers related to these groups of people but I imagine there are many no matter what union one belongs to.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:09 PM
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11. Isn't full citizenship a requirement to vote?
Maybe it is different in the Nevada caucus, but I think for general elections, citizenship is required by law.

I'll have to read those rules tonight.

I know I'll be called all kinds of names, but if there is any indication that the rules are not being followed, the election result will be tarnished in the eyes of some, and lawsuits and recounts might follow.

I don't think that would reflect well on any Dem candidate in the general election in November.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:12 PM
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12. IIRC if you're legal to vote by November, you can caucus
nt
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:36 PM
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18. As they do not require any kind of ID
to caucus, that's irrelevant.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:16 PM
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21. It has been reported here that prospective caucus-goers must sign an affidavit
of some kind.

Usually, legal penalties attach to false affirmations on an affidavit.

However, unless there were a recount, nothing is going to happen.

This is not to advocate that those who wish to vote make ANY false statements.

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MediaBabe Donating Member (610 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:50 PM
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33. They do require an affirmation of legality.
It's not irrelevant if the person knowingly lied to participate in the caucus.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:16 PM
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22. Thanks for the info. n/t
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:04 PM
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7. getting nervous, Hermie?
Edited on Fri Jan-18-08 04:04 PM by JackORoses
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:05 PM
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8. Hermie, you wouldn't be lying to us, wouldya?
:spank: :spank:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:20 PM
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15. Like no one on this board would ever do that, right?
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Reciprocity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:18 PM
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13. Looks like the only thing you need to bring for voting in Nevada is a union card.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:37 PM
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19. "Post & Run"
:patriot:
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 04:39 PM
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20. And yes she still tried to keep them from voting. n/t
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 06:18 PM
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23. Baloney...they can all vote..no ID's are required in NV
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 08:54 PM
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24. Kick to point out Keith O. just called Lou Dobbs one of tonights "Worst persons in the world" for
the comment he made that you repeated. The truth is there are about 30,000 IMMIGRANTS...not ILLEGAL immigrants in the CWU. :kick: for truth.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-18-08 09:00 PM
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25. it is a caucus not a vote...does that make a difference?
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:22 PM
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26. The OP is wrong. He used Lou Dobbs' false statement. They're immigrants. Not illegal immigrants.
And they need to be registered voters. And they can register right then and there to caucus if they're not registered yet.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:29 PM
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27. I bet it really pisses you off that they don't require US ID at the Caucus.
Will you blame a Hillary loss on illegals?
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:36 PM
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28. KO called bullshit on this myth last night -- But thanks for the race-baiting.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:51 PM
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30. Yup. I kicked up this thread after I heard Olbermann talking about that.
:hi:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:56 PM
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31. It's positively Lou Dobbian!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:12 PM
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32. It sure is!
:hi: (I called Obama "MLKish" on here the other day.) :D
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