When is Hillary going to do the classy thing and concede Nevada?

[Joe the Revelator]

Since she got fewer delegates then the winner, B. Obama.

[Teaser]

1. oh lord this is stupid

I support Obama, but this is just lame.

Please make this stop.

[Joe the Revelator]

4. How is it lame? He won the most delegates in Nevada, which means he won the state. The MSM jumped..

the gun on their call.

[jackson_dem]

7. He won with 45% of the vote? Hillary got 51%

[Joe the Revelator]

13. He won more delegates. Thats the way the system works, he won the primary

[ClassWarrior]

19. Link here:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/19/182756/355/679/439684

NGU.

[durrrty libby]

33. DKOS is like sooo reliable man.....

:dunce: :thumbsdown: :nuke:

[ClassWarrior]

39. The item came from The Nation.

If you had stopped acting foolish long enough to investigate the link, you'd have seen that. Do you doubt The Nation's credibility? If so, provide a counter source.

I'm waiting.

NGU.

[durrrty libby]

46. Here you go

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NV

And I don't care for The Nation at all

[ClassWarrior]

48. That says it all. You prefer CNN to The Nation.

:rofl:

NGU.

[jackson_dem]

27. You call that a "win"? The people voted for Hillary. Obama lost no matter how you slice it

[Joe the Revelator]

35. Then you have no idea what the primarys are for.

They are to WIN delegates. That is their only purpose. Whoever wins the most delegates, wins the primary.

[jackson_dem]

45. So Obama didn't "lose" NH because he got as many delegates as Hillary?

Obama lost. It may help him in the war but he lost the battle.

[Joe the Revelator]

50. You can't "lose" a primary by getting th most delegates

It just doesn't work that way.

[durrrty libby]

20. That's what you call Obama math

:hi:

[ClassWarrior]

31. That's what you call Nevada Caucus math...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/19/182756/355/679/439684

But the rules aren't nearly as fun as immature name calling and snide snickering, are they? :hi:

NGU.

[MediaBabe]

41. "Obama math" LOL I like it. n/t

[desi]

57. Fuzzy Math Redux

who woulda thought...

Giants!

[durrrty libby]

61. Love ya man but

Patriots

[Name removed]

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[madeline_con]

2. Is this flamebait for Hill haters? n/t

[yardwork]

3. Do you seriously think that this will create momentum for your candidate?

Many of Obama's supporters are the stupidest campaigners I've ever encountered. Seriously.

You are dragging your candidate down. Get some training about how to run a campaign.

[Joe the Revelator]

6. It created delegates, he won MORE delegates then anyone else, which in this case means he won the...

primary.

[1corona4u]

22. SO FUCKING WHAT....

He didn't win the popular vote. Get over it. Until such time as the delegates come into play, it's irrelevant how many delegates he picked up today. It's the OVERALL count that will determine the nominee.

Jeez..........................The desperation is breathtaking.

[Joe the Revelator]

24. So fucking what? Its the way the system works. The primary voting is to allocate delegates

Who ever wins the most delegates wins the primary.

[1corona4u]

44. According to the Nevada caucus site, Hillary won both;

Candidate % St. Delgates Delegates
Clinton 51% 5,289 13
Obama 45% 4,688 12
Edwards 4% 389 0
Kucinich 0% 4 0


http://thenevadacaucus.com/

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[yardwork]

70. You guys don't get it. You can't win by making everybody mad at your candidate.

[yardwork]

69. Sigh. This is politics. You have to win the election, not the primaries.

[durrrty libby]

5. Table for Bitter Party of One

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[ClassWarrior]

10. Bitter about getting more delegates?

I'm serious. Why should the OP be bitter, if his/her candidate got more delegates? That just doesn't make sense.

NGU.

[Joe the Revelator]

11. Who's bitter? The MSM called the race too early, just like in 2000

Obama won the primary.

[William769]

You need to stop sniffing the glue.

[Joe the Revelator]

26. So, are you denying that the point of the primarys is to win delegates?

nt

[William769]

32. Why would I deny that?

Hillary won the majority of them.

[Joe the Revelator]

38. It looks like she came up one delegate short.

Sorry about your loss.

[William769]

43. Want to put your money where you mouth is and give a link?

I got one for you.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/scorecard/

In fact she's up two now! :rofl:

[Joe the Revelator]

53. I've posted the link to the nation (via KOS) multiple times in this thread

I expect CNN to change their numbers shortly.

If I post one of these, does it give my point more credit:

:rofl:

?

[ElizabethDC]

8. CNN and MSNBC still have her with more delegates. n/t

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

12. This is only the 2nd dumbest post I've seen today. n/t

[Joe the Revelator]

18. Do you understand how the primary system works? Its all about delegates....

Obama won more, and inturn won the primary.

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

40. If you want to play silly delegate games...

...then include the superdelegates, as they're just as much a part of "the system" as the caucus.

[Joe the Revelator]

54. Superdelegates aren't bound to anyone until the convention. The same can not be said by primary..

delegates.

[Maven]

14. This is bullshit.

And if Obama pushes this "no really, I won on a technicality" crap he'll look very, very foolish.

[Joe the Revelator]

21. Whats the "technicality"? He won fair and square. This is the way the system is set up.

nt

[Maven]

28. First of all, CNN and MSNBC say otherwise.

Until someone other than David Axelrod substantiates those numbers, they're not determinative of anything.

Secondly, it's still bullshit and that's how people will see it.

[Lucinda]

15. Nope.....She is winning by 6% of the vote and has 1 more delegate

http://edition.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NV

[durrrty libby]

23. heh

[Joe the Revelator]

29. CNN is wrong (link inside)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/19/182756/355/679/439684

[William769]

16. WHen are some people going to get a fucking clue and stop making an ass out of themselves?

[Tulkas]

17. 1n 2012 ?

Dumb Post, more people turned out for her.

(Obama supporter here)

[beyurslf]

25. CNN says Hillary received the most delegates.

<http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NV>

[Joe the Revelator]

30. CNN is wrong (link inside)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/19/182756/355/679/439684

[journalist3072]

34. What a fucktard you are....Go crawl in a hole where you belong.

[durrrty libby]

36. Don't hold back now. lol

:hi: :woohoo: :applause: :woohoo:

[ClericJohnPreston]

37. Flamebait

Pure and simple....with emphasis on the SIMPLE!

[gdaerin]

42. I don't understand, she got the most votes! nt

[1corona4u]

47. She didn't. See the Nevada caucus site;

Candidate % St. Delgates Delegates
Clinton 51% 5,289 13
Obama 45% 4,688 12
Edwards 4% 389 0
Kucinich 0% 4 0


http://thenevadacaucus.com/

[jillan]

49. hate to break it to you - but those totals have been updated - Hillary won more delegates than Obama

Clinton won 13 delegates in Nevada on Saturday, compared to 12 for Obama, an AP analysis of caucus results showed. All of Nevada's 25 Democratic delegates have been awarded.

Clinton leads the overall race for delegates with 237, including separately chosen party and elected officials known as superdelegates. She is followed by Obama with 135 and former Sen. John Edwards with 50.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hUPSXLSf9BMjfyPSCc2sdK8RtV8QD8U97GC82

[Clintonista2]

51. LOL. Poor Wolsh, there he goes embarassing himself again...

[William769]

60. Boy thats an understatement!

[MH1]

64. Except it looks like Obama did win more delegates.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229219

[Joe the Revelator]

66. Looks like you jumped the gun with the insults Lirwin

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CAMPAIGN_RDP?SITE=KPUA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[Clintonista2]

68. What are you talking about?

"“I don’t know why they’re saying that,” said Jill Derby, President of the Nevada State Democratic Party, referring to the Obama campaign. “We don’t select our national delegates the way they’re saying. We won’t select national delegates for a few more months"

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/19/us/politics/19cnd-dems.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin

[MH1]

63. MSNBC says Obama won.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21229219

[cali]

52. What an idiotic post. no surprise. n/t

[acmavm]

55. Are you on drugs?

[desi]

56. What are you going to do if she does not?

I'm calling Kucinich right now and demand that he demand a recount :silly:

[musicblind]

59. Haha

looks like Clinton actually DID win more delegates than Obama.

Now look, I think Obama is a great guy and great candidate, but some (not all) Obama supporters are reflecting very badly on their candidate. It almost makes me want him to lose so that certain supporters will learn not to be so mean.

However, I would never base a vote off of that. May the best man/woman win! Obama has many good qualities himself. Some of his supporters should model after their candidate and be nice :)

[Joe the Revelator]

65. What are you talking about?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/C/CAMPAIGN_RDP?SITE=KPUA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

[jlake]

67. Wrong. Updated with 13 for Hillary & 12 for BO

[sb5697]

71. This he won, no she won stuff is really stupid...

I don't care for Hillary and could care less who won yesterday between the two of them. However, in the big picture Hillary has to be nervous as hell. Obama was not suppose to even be competitive during the primaries and he's causing all sorts of issues for her campaign. In fact he won the rural vote handedly in both NH and Nevada and Hillary has won nothing with overwhelming support. Rural vote usually resembles Southern votes as I recall and if that translates as such on Feb 5 then not only will Obama have a helluva weekend next weekend but the Feb 5 will also be big.

Hillary was once thought to be unbeatable, practically crowned before one vote was cast. Now they are sweating every vote and have no right to be bragging about anything--period.