Claiming a Delegate Win in Nevada is No Worse Than Claiming a Win in Michigan.

[Barack_America]

It has been argued (by either side) that both are low-class moves. But, I ask you, who moved first? Who set the stage for claiming these so-called "worthless, low-class victories"?

And, come to think of it, at least those delegates in Nevada actually count. Winning delegates is the point of a caucus, after all. No?

You should know that Obama also won more delegates in New Hampshire. Yet in New Hampshire he graciously conceded the victory to Hillary. So, what could have happened to prompt Obama to claim that delegate victory in Nevada? What took place between New Hampshire and Nevada?

Ohhh, that's right...Michigan.

(FYI-Clinton claimed victory in Michigan, a primary in which she was the only big-name candidate on the ballot)
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=5219

[GodlessBiker]

1. Ask Al Gore how much the popular vote counts.

[Barack_America]

2. Exactly. We have played this game before. We know what really counts.

Thanks for pointing that out.

[KittyWampus]

3. NH was not a caucus.

[Barack_America]

4. Your point?

If you're disputing the NH delegate count, here is my source.

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=NH&ref=ipb

I don't recall having referred to NH as a "caucus".

[KittyWampus]

6. It makes no sense to discuss popular votes in Iowa or Nevada because they are caucus states

[HeraldSquare212]

10. Primary states that award delegates by congressional district could have the same outcome. nt

[TeamJordan23]

5. Clinton claimed a Mich win. nm

[Barack_America]

9. Yes, thank you. That was my point.

Her claiming a win in Michigan, a state with a gutted primary and technically only herself on the ballot, is the same as Obama claiming a delegate win.

[Samantha]

18. She publicly said she would not campaign in Michigan

when she refused to remove her name from the ballot at the same time the other candidates did. The outcome at that very time became a foregone conclusion. That made the Clinton's claim of a win in Michigan all the much smaller, and the candidate herself became smaller through that act. You have to take everything she says by the grain of the salt.

[KennedyGuy]

7. talk about worthless, low class threads..

[Barack_America]

12. Why is that? Is it classy to claim a victory in an election when you're the only one...

On the ballot? I mean, plenty of people do it, but they're usually wearing some sort of military uniform when they do so.

Point being, it wasn't a democratic victory. So, to claim a win for it, is insulting to our democracy.

[depakid]

8. No better, either

Both sorts of posts are lame.

[Joe the Revelator]

11. How is claiming a delegate win a "low class move"? Its the entire point of the caucus

Whoever wins the most delegates wins the caucus.

[Barack_America]

13. It's being argued by Clinton supporters that it was "low class".

My point is that it's no more "low class" than Clinton claiming a win in Michigan. I'll edit to make it more clear.

[SaveOurDemocracy]

14. Gawd ... all you people in the pissin contest are makin me sick.

:puke:

[Barack_America]

15. This is more to point out that both sides...

Have made questionable moves.

That's all. I know this back and forth is annoying as hell, and for that I'm sorry. But, as a Michigan native, I was particularly offended when Hillary claimed victory in our meaningless primary.

[Bitwit1234]

16. THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN did not ----did not---- did not=====

claim victory. The MSM reported it as such...Clinton campaign did not mention Michigan. Only the ones who wished to stir it up.

[Barack_America]

17. Um, you might want to check that link I have above...they actually DID

It's to the Clinton campaign's statement regarding Michigan:

I'll copy-and-paste it for you:

"Tonight Michigan Democrats spoke loudly for a new beginning. You spoke out for an economy that would honor the middle class, not punish it. You spoke out for a President who will fight to create good paying jobs at a time when so many families are struggling to make ends meet. You spoke out for an end to the war in Iraq. You spoke out for a quality, affordable health care system that works for all Americans.
"For that, we thank you.
"Your voices matter. And as President, Hillary Clinton will not only keep listening, but will make sure your voice is always heard."