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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:46 PM
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McCain isn't going to talk about anything but national security. Clinton is the only D who can win.
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 09:47 PM by Proud2BAmurkin
That's my view. Competence in foreign policy and national security will beat McCain. Obama is seen as a light weight in that area especially after he poo pooed 9/11 in the last debate.

Clinton has been campaigning with the knowledge that it will be a huge priority for voters and she's well positioned on those issues.

And she'll blow him away on the economy. Billary has a record there.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:47 PM
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1. I think any of the top three can beat him. I really do. nt
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:48 PM
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2. Especially with those pro-war votes. n/t
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:49 PM
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4. like it or not, that's why she's sticking to them. They WILL help in the GE
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:51 PM
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6. Like what or not?
The fact that she rah-rah'd our way to Iraq?

Woo hah, can't wait for another warmongering president. At least this one might have a "d" next to their name.

All that matters.

Pepsi v Coke
Ford v GM
Brand recognition. Yay.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:55 PM
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11. she voted for the IWR, Obama didn't know if he would or wouldn't. Neither would have started war.
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:01 PM
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14. Loved her vote reauthorizing the Patriot Act, too.
Military action against Iran "not off the table".

How Romney of her.

As far as Obama goes, they both suck.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:49 PM
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3. You are as trust worthy in punditry as Billo.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:50 PM
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5. Iraq is not going to be an issue?
You are surrenering on Iraq?
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:53 PM
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8. Hillary will say she doesn't regret her vote AND she'll get troops out. Great positioning.
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:53 PM
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7. I somehow doubt that
McCain's continuing cheerleading for the war has slagged his reputation and makes his judgement look suspect. I don't see how that makes him a threat on the foreign policy front when he's shown to be a total doofus there, and HRC made the same mistake he did and refused to own up to it. If it comes down to that we're toast simply because of the virulent hatred of the Clintons in the right wing will drive them to the polls.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:54 PM
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The virulent haters will go to the polls anyway, but Clinton gets MORE women to go
by huge numbers
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:59 AM
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17. That's assuming she keeps the party together
AND that Bloomberg doesn't decide to jump in as well as assuming full turnout by the Dems ALONG with GOP women switching sides. If he jumps in HRC is toast without butter or jam, especially if we have to deal with McCain.
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:54 PM
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9. Hillary is the worst against McCain
McCain can win the middle the way Hillary can't.

Clinton v. McCain comes down to turnout, and a lot of people may turn out to vote against Hillary



People are tired of being scared into voting for someone they don't like (Bush). The security card will play, but not as strongly as it has in the past.

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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:54 PM
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10. If turnout is the key Clinton will kill because of the women
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:44 PM
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16. I know a LOT of women who would rise from their deathbeds
to vote AGAINST Hill.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:56 PM
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12. Is she going to claim she has more "experience" than him too?
She setting herself up.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:57 PM
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13. "More than enough and better" experience. She'll hang Bush around his neck.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:11 PM
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15. I believe she would be a stronger NS candidate. nt
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:39 AM
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18. I think you're right.
McCain keeps parroting on about keeping the war going for as long as it takes, most people are tired of that mentality.

And even though I was glad when Obama won Iowa, I surprised myself because I was even more relieved when Hillary won NH. She may not be inspiring but she is a safe pair of hands for the economy and competent on foreign policy.
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win_in_06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:50 AM
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19. I don't agree that Hillary has earned any National Security bones
If she tries to battle McCain on that field she will be at a disadvantage.
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