Hillary got more delegates in Iowa - she conceded, congratulated both others

[robbedvoter]

In spite of the fraction of the percent difference from Edwards - she never called it a tie (like Edwards called with Clark in NH 2004 - with about 5 points dofference)
Just sain' :shrug:

The two delegate # f*ups just canceled each other - but remain a testament to the anti-democratic character of the caucases.

[Barack_America]

1. She did not get more delegates in Iowa.

Sorry.

She only came close with the superdelegates, which don't really count yet.

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/elections/state?state=IA&ref=ipb

[robbedvoter]

4. If I am wrong, the F*ups didn't even up - still no gripe from her

Although I remember lots of gripes from Obama's camp when that seemed to be the case.

[Barack_America]

8. What did she have to gripe about? She lost both in votes and delegates....

FWIW, Obama also ended up with a tie in delegates in NH (now is leading), but he didn't gripe.

Hillary set the stage for this:
1). By downplaying the importance of the popular vote HERSELF in NV and highlighting that the delegates are all that matters (apparently her campaign was expecting the opposite result)
2). Claiming that bogus "victory" in Michigan where nobody else of consequence was on the ballot. Not very classy.

[MercerForPrez]

2. Lee Mercer Jr. has graciously conceded all three primaries/caucuses to date (not counting Michigan)

Where is the class on the part of the "McCandidates"?

[CoffeeCat]

3. No, that's not true....

Hillary did NOT get MORE delegates from the Iowa caucus votes, than Obama did.

That is not true. I was a precinct captain in Iowa.

Obama garnered more delegates than Hillary. That's how he won!

I think you're talking about the "Super Delegates". Those are delegates that
are given to a candidate, outside of the caucus proceedings. They have nothing
to do with the caucus. Party officials or Democratic leaders give those delegates
to a candidate.

Hillary did get more of those.

The issue in Nevada was that Obama got more delegates out of the caucus, but Hillary
got more votes. That is true.

That was not the situation in Iowa...at all. Obama won the caucus---hands down.

[robbedvoter]

6. It seemed this way on all the websites (CNN et al). Big fight on it on DU.

I considered it wrong at the time - just as I consider this one wrong - on principle. Quite inconsequential, but not democratic. And really petty of Obama's campaign to hang their spin on it. In NH it was recounts. In Michigan - "no opposition" (in spite of Conyers robocalls). In Nevada - more delegates.
Anyone see a pattern here?

[AGirl]

9. Obama is really pathetic , he can't admit defeat .

Ugh. These people piss me off.

[Pirate Smile]

5. No, she didn't. Obama got one more in Iowa. They received the same

amount in New Hampshire.

It looks like he will get one more in Nevada also.

[jackson_dem]

7. More like 0.5 difference between Edwards and Clark

And he called it a tie in his speech before all the votes had been counted. It was not clear who wound wind up 3rd at the time.

[robbedvoter]

10. It was very clear - and NYT had to retract their lie. Clark was the 2008 Edwards

media -wise. Although, it would be more accurate to say "Edwards played Clark" this time around. With the same consequences.

[jackson_dem]

12. Not at the time Edwards made his concession speech in NH

[terisan]

11. Obama had to rush back to Chicago to do damage control re Rezko scandal. Just

gave more tainted campaign donations to charity because he is id'ed in court papers.

[Barack_America]

13. Oh get over it. Those court papers show he's in the clear... Try again.

He's mentioned in one freaking paragraph that goes out of its way to dismiss any implications against him.

You'd know this if you did a little more reading. One of you own guys posted this tonight, so there's not a lot of excuse for your ignorance on the topic.

[terisan]

15. Obama has lots of explaining to do. You need to read up on his 19 yr Rezko ties.

[billbuckhead]

17. Illinois sure seems like a corrupt state

It sure would be a shame for :(bama to lose that way,

[wisteria]

14. Sen. Clinton lost Iowa fair and square.

NH and Nevada were loaded with dirty tricks and from what I am now hearing, disenfranchisement and intimidation in Nevada. Whenever McAulliffe is involved in anything you know it is sleazy and underhanded and sometimes illegal.

[MercerForPrez]

16. "Robbedvoter" only cares about robbed votes for his McCandidate,

Sen. Hillary Clinton. This is not a "Democrat" in the true sense of the word, ladies and gentlemen.