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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:44 AM
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For 2012, let's do away with the caucus system
At least, the convoluted one in Nevada and in any other state that does not follow secret ballots.

And whatever the system was in Nevada - that some caucuses had more delegates than others - and I am not even trying to understand this - scrap it.

I don't know what were the reasons behind it and it does not matter. We already have several reports on DU about how chaotic and intimidating and perhaps even fraudulent some caucuses were in Nevada.

Let's have a system where voters can get behind the curtain and cast a secret ballot for their preferred candidate. And if any state wants to have town hall meetings to discuss other issues, by all means, do it, but keep the vote casting simple and secret.

No, Obama is not my preferred candidate though, of course, I will vote for him if he is the nominee. But that system has to go.

And while we are looking at Nevada, let's replace Harry Reid with Chris Dodd as the Senate Majority.

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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:45 AM
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1. There were only two hours of caucus time, I think.
That's a hardship for people who can't get off work.
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Kucinich4America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:47 AM
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2. Not until we do away with the electro-fraud machines first
The caucus system may have its problems, but it beats the shit out of deliberate, untraceable fraud.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:57 AM
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5. How about both simultaneously - both are anti-democratic
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:55 AM
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3. Lets Also Do Away With a Two Year...


...prez campaign as well.....I am so close to the edge of burn out I could scream.

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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:57 AM
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6. Halleluja!
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:59 AM
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9. This will probably not happen again for at least 80 years
the last time the field was wide open with no incumbent president or VP running.
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:00 AM
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10. yes, and it's EXPENSIVE too! so we get the $$ candidates n/t
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:56 AM
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4. Votes must be universal, secret, direct and equal. Or else its just theater.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:59 AM
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7. While at it, same day primaries, throw out electoral colleges, paper ballots.
Keep it simple!
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TriMetFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:59 AM
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8. I agree.
This causus crap is for the birds.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:01 AM
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11. I agree. Damn skippy and if a state that holds a caucus now
says they will not change then maybe President Clinton who will most likely chose the head of the DNC will tell said person if a state refuses then strip them of their delegates (like dean did michigan and florida).....
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OmahaBlueDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:02 AM
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12. I think a National Primary is inevitable now
Between the states trying to change dates to go first, and the inconsistencies among states (caucuses, indys can vote in some states, but can't vote in others), I think a national primary with some kind of standard voting criteria across all states is coming.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:18 AM
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13. By 2012 we will be lucky if they still let us pretend to vote. n/t
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oldgrowth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 01:21 AM
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14. 1-Do away with black boxs(paper by hand) 2-public financing-
3-Make Nov 7 a holiday 4- Do away with the caucus system 5- Do away with the forever campaigns
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