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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:12 AM
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Ron Paul beats Hillary Clinton in Nevada???
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:15 AM
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1. there are way more Republicans in the north and in the rurals then Dems
And Las Vegas is largely Dem.

We were lucky to see Obama and Hillary do as good as they did in the north and the rurals. Especially the numbers for Obama.

I guess maybe that's why Harry Reid didn't care if the casinos in the north and the rurals were open and workers were working today. It wasn't a huge Dem population in the scheme of things.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:17 AM
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2. The Nevada Test Site down-wind bloc.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:19 AM
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4. Rural NV would never go to Hillary
When they set these rules, they knew they had to do something to offset rural NV. They set those strip caucus sites because they thought the CWU would easily go to Hillary and weighting them would offset rural NV. When that didn't happen, they sued. And when that didn't work, I will guarantee you they pulled in every person they could to caucus on the strip, regardless of where they would have normally caucused. I wish they'd work this hard at outmaneuvering Republicas.
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ursi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:01 AM
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13. we should also be concerned about legitimate Nevada Dem voters
Identification was not required to get in the door at my precinct and that included those who filled out voter registrations on the spot. I tried to show my driver's license and they pushed it out of the way without looking. I just found my name and signed by it on the registered voter sheets.

People who were in line before me and next to me who were registering did not have to show id.

There are already rumors of voter registration audits for January 19.

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:48 AM
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15. I've never shown ID to vote
As far as I can remember, I've always only signed a sheet and voted. I have mail-in now, I sign the envelope and vote. Lots of places also have same day registration. That's the general view of the Democratic Party, helping more people vote. I think the statistics are that 1 in 8 don't have a drivers license. I would also say, if there was fraud, it wasn't in Reno.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:18 AM
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3. Those numbers are actually the number of state delegates
Not the number of voters
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:23 AM
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6. Actually, the delegates won are in the 3rd column. The 1st column are the votes.


(Romney did not get 22,000 state delegates)
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:00 AM
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9. You're mistaken
about 107,000 people voted in the Dem primary. Your chart would indicate only 10k did.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 08:04 AM
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12. actually the third column is an estimate of how many delegates to the national convention
the first column is the number of delegates to the county convention, which is all the caucus decided. You should do your homework. Here's an explanation from the Nevada Democratic Party Chair:
Las Vegas, NV)

"The Nevada Democratic Party and its officials have taken great effort to maintain our neutrality in the presidential campaign and the integrity of our process. Today, two out of three Nevadans who caucused chose a Democrat instead of a Republican for president. That is an overwhelming majority vote for a new direction. Just like in Iowa, what was awarded today were delegates to the County Convention, of which Senator Clinton won the majority. No national convention delegates were awarded. That said, if the delegate preferences remain unchanged between now and April 2008, the calculations of national convention delegates being circulated by the Associated Press are correct. We look forward to our county and state conventions where we will choose the delegates for the nominee that Nevadans support."
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:58 AM
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16. Those are state delegates, not 'votes' as
MSNBC mistakenly has labeled them.

Those numbers are not votes.

Here's a better explanation: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#NV

and here's a breakdown of the delegates assigned to each candidate: http://www.nvdems08.com/
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ArkySue Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:21 AM
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5. Nope
Democrats votes are the number of delegates won at each caucus. The Republicans are the actual individual vote totals.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:28 AM
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7. I'm sure we're terribly worried about that.
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onassar Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:51 AM
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8. ron paul opinion wanted
the poll at http://www.ifimpresident.com/d1508_the_great_ron_paul_question/ right now is pretty inconclusive.. i'd really like to see what the dem community as a whole thinks...
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 06:16 AM
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10. Well this community of one thinks
he's a racist. :grr:
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:46 AM
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11. You are more than a community of one.
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 07:46 AM by TheWatcher
He is most certainly.

What troubles me most is that he has managed to strike a chord with a lot of younger voters and those who want the war to end NOW, and he has played the anti-war card quite well with this section of the populace, but that is the only selling point he has.

Those who think Ron Paul is the answer need to do their homework.

Ron Paul is about as much the answer as letting Brittney Spears take over as Chairman of The Fed.

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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:42 AM
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14. Ron Paul is not on the Democratic ballot
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