Why can't most Obama supporters accept defeat in Nevada

[sunonmars]

So Hillary beat him by 6% in Nevada and he goes all cry baby by claiming I won more delegates, i won more delegates.

Yet when he wins Iowa by 9%, He only gets one more delegate than Hillary and the Obama supporters went all cry baby over that too.

You can't have it your way all the time, its sounding desperately pathetic.

I've heard people call it a win for Obama in Nevada around here, a tie for Obama in here.

You lot were not doing not when Obama won Iowa and Hillary lost there.

Pathetic.

Basically we've seen right through his campaign strategy. Every time Hillary has a win, his campaign has to try and steal the limelight or claim the Clintons played dirty tricks.

In Iowa it was, the people rejected Clinton and she was finished.

In NH it was she rigged the vote, another lie.

In Michigan, it was 40% came out against her, utter rubbish.

and now this shit of yeah we won more delegates in Nevada, so we won (the most pathetic so far).

You basically just said screw you Nevada to its voters who voted by majority for Hillary.

Word to the wise, no-one likes a sore loser Obama, accept defeat graciously.

Oh and by the way, How embarrassing was it for you to get the endorsement of the biggest union, the CWU and then have its members basically turn round and smack you in the mouth by voting enmasse for someone else.

I have no empathy for him any more.

[aquart]

1. That CU endorsement wasn't an embarrassment for Obama.

It was an acute embarrassment for union leadership which massively failed to get the sense of its membership.

For Obama, it's one more cruel disappointment, one more anticipated victory snatched away.

[MADem]

2. The irony is, had he known about the sense of the CWU membership,

he might have agreed to dumping the At Large sites. That might have, ironically, ended up giving him a WIN in NV.

Or at least something closer to a tie in terms of the percentages.

The truth of the matter with NV is, the winner of the nomination gets ALL the NV votes--all twenty five of them. There's none of this split the diff shit, unless it is a brokered convention.

[aquart]

5. It is, isn't it? LOL!

Wait. The winner of the nom? or the winner of the primary?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

10. Keeping the at-large sites wasn't HIS call.

Any more than it was Hillary's call to get rid of them. This is stupid.

[MADem]

12. Gee, to read this forum, you'd swear "the Clintons" were personally involved

down to typing the thing.

And the Obama camp, involved or not, was clearly opposed to any change in the set-up. At the end of the day, Senator Clinton LIKED the idea of the lawsuit, and Obama did not. They or their surrogates are on record saying so, so it's foolish to pretend otherwise.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/17/casino.caucuses/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

"Some of the people who set up the rules apparently didn't think we'd be as competitive as we were and trying to change them last minute," Obama said while campaigning in San Francisco, California, on Thursday, "but I think the judge was clear that you can't change the rules six days before a caucus.

"Any alteration would have disenfranchised maids, dishwashers bellhops who work on the strip ..." he said. "I think it was the right decision to make sure that as many people in the caucus participate as possible."

Critics of the lawsuit, including Obama himself, say it was a clear attempt to suppress his support.

"Are we going to let a bunch of lawyers try to prevent us from bringing about change in America? Are we going to let folks change the rules when they don't work for them?" Obama said in a rally in Nevada.

Former President Bill Clinton disagreed with the casino caucuses and became testy with a TV reporter on Wednesday while being asked about the lawsuit....

But whatever. You can parse it six ways to Sunday, but my point, which, despite your insistence, is NOT 'stupid' stands.

He 'misread' his support.

Had Obama concurred with the union's effort to get rid of the At Large Caucus Sites, the judge may have ruled differently, and Obama may well have pulled off Nevada.

What happened was, Clinton kept working her already strong support in the hispanic community in the week and days ahead of the contest, and Obama listened to the pollsters (first mistake when dealing with a caucus) and rested on his laurels.

It came back and bit him.

[anamandujano]

22. aka bad judgment or

not knowing which end is up.

[cali]

3. It's clearly silly for Obama supporters to claim any kind of a win

for him in NV, but what can you say, this is DU. But let me suggest that your lot is every bit as nasty, petty and ugly as some of the Obama supporters. And with this post, cupcake, you put yourself squarely in the ugly, nasty and petty camp. Want Obama supporters to back Hillary when she gets the nomination? Then I suggest you be a gracious winner, instead of a whiny nasty one. The first thing I did when Hillary won was post a congratulations thread. People like YOU, make me sorry I did.

[sunonmars]

4. for your information

I said most, i did not say all and let me tell you, you have had your fair share of nastiness and pettiness. Pot calling the kettle black.

[desi]

16. rofl

Is she the kettle or the pot? Just don't call her cupcake cupcake. The hypocrisy is astounding ain't it?

on edit: Thank YOU for the kind post about President Clinton yesterday.

[sunonmars]

24. Thanks, somebody had to bloody say it

[aquart]

6. Oh, it's YOU.

What brass balls you have, my dear.

[Tulkas]

7. at best, it is a tie

But it will make good press. The entire news cycle will talk about the one delate going to Obama and the 6% going to Clinton.

[JTFrog]

8. I admit that the person who tried to keep them from voting at all won. I'm shocked!

No really. Truly. Shocked I tell ya. :eyes:

[stray cat]

9. As if Clinton wouldn't do the same thing if she won the delegate counts

and lost the popular vote - its called smart politics. How many people state Gore won the popular vote? That obviously was totally unimportant and we should all state he lost and leave it at that?

[THUNDER HANDS]

11. last time I checked, this was a race for delegates

and Obama got more delegates in Iowa and Nevada.

So one could make a claim to him "winning" both.

Personally, I think it's more accurate to say he tied in Nevada.

[TheWebHead]

13. it's called putting the best face on a situation

that's politics. I also think there is a high degree of concern with Mccain breaking out in the republican side that we are basically conceding the election by selecting a candidate that cannot compete w/ independents.

[CyberPieHole]

14. Because like Obama himself they have nothing but "hopes & dreams" to cling to...

...when reality comes~a~knocking they cry, whine and scream. Obama does it, so they do it.

[medeak]

15. you're incorrect

Obama overwhelmed the rurals in NV (had 63% to 30% in my county) and rurals receive more delegates per vote than metropolitan areas to encourage candidates to visit us. Obama has one more delegate than Clinton. I actually threw my caucus vote to Hillary after Edwards was not viable...

[TankLV]

17. Maybe because any way you look at it - it was a TIE at best?!?!

and I'm speaking as someone who supports Hillary and voted for her here...

[MagsDem]

18. No kidding -- great post

I am beginning to think Obama's supporters are as unseasoned and as immature as he appears to be.

[cobalt1999]

19. To be totally honest, if the tables were turned

As a Hillary supporter, I'd probably spin it as a "partial win" too. It would ring a little hollow, but at this stage of the election it is all about image and momentum, so I'd do the same thing.

If you're honest with yourself, wouldn't you too?

[wisteria]

20. The Clinton's are all about dirty tricks and even though I had sympathy for Hillary

at one point, that has evaporated as I have watched Bill go about doing his dirty work and get angry at the press. He is all about intimidation and I wonder who is really running for president.

Obama needs to accept that he lost,although he did gain a lot of ground on her in recent weeks, but learn from the loss and move on to beat this already been there and done that couple.

He is the candidate who can claim to be about real change.

[Blue-Jay]

21. This is one of the things that I really dislike about DU right now.

It seems that GDP is filled with people who base their opinions of Candidate Supporters on the actions of a few odious loudmouths, and by extension, the candidate him/herself. Nothing could be further from being accurate, and it's getting very stale.

[Diane R]

23. You must have forgotten Bill Clinton placing second in N.H. and claiming victory.

[otohara]

25. Empathy?

anymore?

Oh please, stop pretending like you ever had any empathy in the first place for him. It's clear from many of your previous posts, you're not, nor ever have been a fan of Obama.

[AX10]

26. I never had empathy for him.

Obama did not get the majority of the vote. Just like Bush in 2000.
The reality here is that the Democrats of Nevada gave a majority to HRC. Obamites can't stand it.
Anytime something goes against Obama, he and his supporters throw hissy-fits like Bush did in 2000.
There is nothing gracious about the Junior Senator from Illinois. He can never accept a defeat. Hillary was gracious in her defeat in Iowa. Very telling.
Obama and company have taken the right wing talking points to smear HRC with. That would include most of the left wing blogesphere and un unworthy junior Senator from Missouri who jumped onto the "the Clinton's are racist" bandwagon.

[AX10]

27. Obama is running a Bush 2000 redux campaign.

And his supporters claim that all critics are "off their meds" or "tipping the bottle" or are "paid shills".