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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:29 AM
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Poll question: Did Al Gore win 2000?
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:30 AM by Lirwin2
I thought that this might be an appropriate poll after last night.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:31 AM
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1. Yes, he did. But he lost his own state and Dems didn't fight for him in Fla as R's did for W. nt
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:33 AM
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2. And a 'Supreme' Court with their own agenda didn't help any.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:46 AM
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6. The Rs emptied their offices on Cap. Hill and flew them to Flordia and the Dems didn't. nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:51 AM
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8. The Tennesee results - as suspicious as Florida. As for the fight - I was in the street
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:51 AM by robbedvoter
protesting, demanding a recount. I was told to go home. By Gore.Who was still 1000 times braver than Kerry/Edwards who silently folded.And stayed silent all these years.
What GOP did - was not "fight" - but truly mount a coup.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:36 AM
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3. I See Where You Are Going With This
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 09:37 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
Even if Obama gets one more delegate than Hill in NV every paper and news station showed her winning Nevada by a comfortable margin and at this point with NINETY SEVEN percent of the delegates to be chosen that perception is all that matters...Any argument to the contrary is totally illogical and disingenuous....


Now if Hillary loses a nomination that takes TWO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED or so delegates by ONE DELEGATE to win that ONE delegate will be a big deal...
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:09 PM
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13. Oh, is that what the OP meant
Duh. Give me another cup of coffee....

Apples and oranges as far as I'm concerned. Bush and the Supremes stole Gore's FL electors. Obama didn't steal anything -- it's just a peculiarity of the caucus system. In light of all that's wrong with caucuses, this apportioning problem is next to nothing.

And besides, one delegate is not gonna matter come convention time.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:37 AM
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4. Obviously a complete and total loss and Clinton rocked!
Oh wait - we're not talking about Obama winning the delegates and Clinton the popular vote? Al Gore? Of course Al Gore won - he won the popular vote!
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:38 AM
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5. both
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 09:48 AM
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7. Won. Was robbed. Me too - hence ny handle. (psst: Kerry won too - pass it on!)
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Jai4WKC08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:02 PM
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9. Depends on what the definition of "win" is
Obviously and undisputedly, he won the popular vote.
I'm convinced he should have received the most electoral votes.

But he ain't in the White House, is he?

Whatever Gore, his campaign, all the Democrats in Congress, in the FL legislature, on the FL Supreme Court, and most importantly, citizens across the nation may have done, it wasn't enough.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:03 PM
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10. This is my view.
:thumbsup:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:04 PM
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11. Gore's victory is completely different. He WON with the votes he needed in Florida
The SC wouldn't let us count all of those.
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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:11 PM
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15. Gore won by a considerable margin...
later, when the news media consortium spent over a million dollars recounting the ballots, it was found that indeed, Gore had won the 2000 election.

This was, of course, after the SCOTUS had ruled in Bush's favor. The News Consortium decided that since Bush was in the White House, that they would not publish their results. Said results are in someone's archives hidden away.

As for Gore's losing Tennessee, a day before the election the NRA made a propaganda blitz in Tennessee with the message out there for all to see: Gore will take away your guns. That was enough to lose Tennessee and there was no time for Gore to refute the false charges.
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Fabio Donating Member (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:06 PM
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12. No....more....
Edited on Sun Jan-20-08 12:16 PM by Fabio
Bottomline is I see seven years of disaster that clearly indicate that Gore did not win (less he would be in the whitehouse). Was he cheated? Yes.
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jonnywishbone07 Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:11 PM
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14. bottom line
everywhere i read it said HILLARY WINS NEVADA!!! you sore losers need to move on.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:13 PM
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16. Depends on what you mean by "win."
In the sense that he got the most votes nationally, and more people attempted to vote for him in Florida than for Bush, he "won."

In the sense that George Bush got more EC votes than Gore did and was thus inaugurated as President, Gore lost.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 12:15 PM
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17. Gore did in fact win more votes but Bush had the Superdelegates on the Supreme Court.
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