Hill's VP? Evan Bayh

[Eurobabe]

He's meek and mild enough to avoid making waves against the 1000 pound gorilla in the room (Bill Clinton).

Just on CNN, and he didn't reject the idea of being her Veep.

[BlueManDude]

1. It's going to be Richardson. nm

[Fabio]

20. I dont think so.

Richardson may have a hard time with the vetting -- though he is a very accomplished man.

[BlueManDude]

I know he's had some kind a "woman" problem...

not exactly sure what it is. In every other regard he's a perfect choice.

[MethuenProgressive]

28. That was just a rumor - though oft repeated.

[Fabio]

30. It's a classic definition of a rumor

only substantiation I have heard is that he didnt hold up well in John Kerry's vetting process.

Regardless, an excellent public servant.

[Evergreen Emerald]

2. I can't help myself

I think he is hot.

[Eurobabe]

4. At least he's not Fred Thompson

:hi:

[Evergreen Emerald]

24. hahaha

Amen to that!

[saltpoint]

3. If HClinton wins the nom, Bayh is likely on her short list for veeps.

It remains to be seen whether he could put Indiana in play. Maybe.

[yardwork]

6. Aren't the Bayhs beloved in Indiana?

The question is - would he help in the south? Maybe so.

[saltpoint]

13. Yes. Evan's won several statewide ballots and the Bayhs are generally admired

in the state, but it's a state of high Republican turn-out. A lot of convervative voters.

Birch Bayh, Evan father's, was as liberal a Senator as you could ask for in Indiana and Hoosier voters turned him out in favor of Dan Quayle in 1980.

It was a dark night in Indiana and a reliable glimpse into what voters there think of liberals.

Agree with you that he could help HClinton in the South, but she would have to make a shortlist up that would maybe include Bayh, Clark, Richardson, Breaux, and so forth. I don't think Obama or Edwards would be interested in the job and Biden has already said he won't take it.

If HClinton wins the nom, she has to be aware of a possible Bloomberg run. He could enter late and then run just slightly to her left, siphoning many independents.

[yardwork]

18. I didn't know that Quayle replaced Bayh in 1980. That was a horrible election night.

1980 was exceeded in horribleness by 1984, followed by 2000, with 2004 being the absolute worst I've experienced.

These corporatists got their claws in our country and have just about wrecked it. I see you support Edwards. I do too, and it's obvious he's not allowed to win. The media and establishment will never allow it.

[saltpoint]

22. Certainly the mainstream media are uneasy about Edwards and will not

exactly knock themselves out to cover his proposals.

Yes -- that night in 1980 was a terrible night in Indiana. There were the mailers sent out by far-right fundie groups accusing Birch Bayh of "tampering with fetuses" because of his pro-choice stand. Quayle refused to disavow the mailers although plainly he was delighted with their wide distribution.

On top of that, there was a distinct sense that conservative voters were punishing Birch Bayh for his liberal poisitions in the Senate.

[no name no slogan]

39. 1994 was the worst

The Dems losing the House after 40+ years was the nadir of the party. Unfortunately, I was dating a Republican from MS at the time, and she was all excited about Trent Lott winning his first re-election.

I actually quit the party for awhile after that, I was so pissed off at the Clintons and the spineless Dems.

[Tom Rinaldo]

11. It could happen. I hope not though

It would not help Hillary bind up the internal wounds in the Democratic Party that primary season this year opened up if she did choose him.

[saltpoint]

21. Hi, Tom. I think that's true. If she is our nominee I think she should

come at the Denver delegates with someone who could hold the blue states, maybe compete in 1 or 2 of the red states in the west and 1 or 2 red states in the South and in the best case, it should be someone who would not be replaced by a Republican and someone who appeals to more progressive Dems and indies.

I'm guessing her shortlist might include Bayh, Richardson, Clark, and maybe John Breaux. Maybe it should also include some more names who could represent different camps in the party and in the general election demographic.

Our nominee has to make a good choice for the November election this year but also a choice for 8 years from now. It's a 16-year decision.

[faithfulcitizen]

42. Indiana will never be in play, but he could certainly help in (leaning) conservative tossups.

He dropped out the race, immediately when she announced. He's insiders' pick for VP to succeed her...so I hear. Of course, I'd much rather Clark. ;-)

[bluestateguy]

5. That would cost us a Senate seat

There is no guarantee that Mitch Daniels will be voted out in November, leaving him with the power to appoint Bayh's replacement if he becomes VP. And I'm not sure any other Democrat could win a Senate seat in Indiana.

[Tom Rinaldo]

7. Good and worrisome point. n/t

[terrya]

27. Exactly.

I'll say it...a Democrat, right now, CAN'T win a Senate seat in Indiana. Indiana is pretty solidly Republican now.

[Nailzberg]

35. Nominating Hillary is gonna cost a couple senate seats.

[boston bean]

8. I don't see it, but you never know. nt

[robbedvoter]

9. Sure he wouldn't reject, She would know better. VP questions at this time are MSM

manufactured. You ask the candidate: would you consider X? Candidate - not wishing to slam a particular person - "sure, why not?" MSM: Breaking! X will be VP!

[TwilightGardener]

10. He'd be there for inoffensive, vanilla, non-controversial eye candy.

He's a photo-op VP, an otherwise bland, unimpressive person. If he wasn't good-looking, would anybody have ever noticed him? I have little respect for anyone who wants to be VP under Clinton--why would you want to play third fiddle with that couple? And no way in hell I'd ever vote for him in eight years. I watched him give Petraeus a second chance to explain himself at the hearings, after Petraeus admitted that he doesn't know if Iraq has an impact on our country's safety--Bayh does the war machine's bidding. Can't stand him--another empty-headed Dan Quayle.

[Eurobabe]

32. precisely, hence then no problem w/Bill

Who ever is her Veep will be going to funerals and weddings. It's why Biden said he would never do it.

[TheWebHead]

12. i think he's the intrade favorite

frankly I could see him as the VP for hillary or obama, since he hasn't been a flamethrower other hillary backers have been. bayh is a great balancer to the ticket for either candidate - a white male who could compete in the south or at least give us indiana.

[CK_John]

14. Not to worry, her VP will be Gov K Sebelius. n/t

[Rock_Garden]

16. Wouldn't that be something?

She's definitely one to watch in the future.

[CK_John]

26. I'm looking forward to her audition and rebuttal of the State of the Union. n/t

[Windy]

15. Bayh is a DLC corporatist and pretty spineless. Sad choice. n/t

[Texas_Kat]

17. Hmmm maybe not

[Freddie Stubbs]

19. Meek? He is a Democrat who has five state-wide elections in a very red state

[OHdem10]

23. You can be meek and win Senate Seats and also vote with

Corporate Interests consistently.

[EffieBlack]

25. ZZZZZZZZZZZZ ... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

[Blue-Jay]

36. Insightful!

[FreeStateDemocrat]

29. Makes me want to check who Bloomberg is running with before I pull the lever.

Selecting the lesser evil of pairs of corporate whores is hard work.

[ladjf]

31. Please don't ruin my day with that suggestion. He is the Democrats

worse nightmare. Check his record. He has consistently supported Bush and his policies.

[sniffa]

33. Better not be

His money issues are going to blown up in the media.

[Blue-Jay]

34. Bayh is a likely choice for Sen Clinton.

Not the best choice in my opinion, but still very likely.

[usregimechange]

37. Hold on...

:puke:

[kurt_cagle]

38. Another Lieberman?

What worries me about talk about Bayh is that the last time the dems chose a more conservative running mate to bolster the middle, it was Lieberman, who is now heading so quickly to the dark side that he'll likely be a major Republican power broker by the end of the decade.

Nor do I necessarily see either Obama or Edwards turning down the nod for number two. Bill Clinton's going to be walking a tightrope if Hillary wins, and its far more likely that he will have the general ombudsman title of senior statesman - in essence putting him into a position of acting as her surrogate on the international stage so that she can concentrate on, um,the domestic side of things - figuring out how to get the country through the impending recession, cleaning up the corruption from eight years of Bush, laying out changes for infrastructure rebuilding, and so forth. Whoever gets the nod for the VP slot is not going to sit idle - there's way too much work to do.

[question everything]

40. I was impressed with his quiet, sure, appearance

compared to the fire and stones that usually dominate such forums.

But I think that Wes Clark will be the best balance. First, for the machos who do not see a woman as Commander in Chief, and also as an experienced international negotiator.

[Krashkopf]

41. If HRC wins the nomination Obama is the logical choice for VEEP

She can't win, having alienated the black vote, and he would get it back for her

[OzarkDem]

43. Ugh, that will bring the progressive voters out

not

[ArkySue]

44. Ridiculous!

Bayh brings absolutely nothing to the table. If McCain is the Rep nominee (which looks likely to me), Clinton will need someone with military/national security/foreign policy experience.
Wes Clark.

[Eurobabe]

45. I couldn't agree more, but from what I have heard

there is no way in hell they will put TWO people with ties to Arkansas on the ticket. And do you really think Wes wants Bill telling him what to do? :rofl:

Clark would be better off with a cabinet position.